Nba becoming a suburban sport?

[mbewane]

It was to be expected honestly.. I mean NBA is the best of the best of the best. There's been what, 4,000 players in its history? The margins are so slim, that the x-factor was always going to be money. Best trainers, best diets, best schools from a young age. Kids in the hoods don't have that luxury, and end up falling a step behind.

That's incredibly low when you really think about it. NBA might actually be the most elitist collective sports league when you take into account the actual number of people who get in.

 

[Da_Eggman]

Wardell turned it into one

 

[keon]

The only time the league seemed flooded wit hood nikkas imo was the early 2000’s

The 80’s and 90’s didn’t give me that type of vibe

 

[mastermind]

The only time the league seemed flooded wit hood nikkas imo was the early 2000’s

The 80’s and 90’s didn’t give me that type of vibe

They were there in the 80s and 90s. Gary Payton is one. Glenn Robinson is another. What happened is a lot of them were in college for a few years and grew up. Stacy Augmon is allegedly a blood.

What you saw in the early aughts was a lot of those younger dudes getting too much bread and some were playing a role.

 

[SchoolboyC]

Ant really from the trenches

But Ant is also another example of what folks were talking about in this thread, he only played one season at a public high school in the hood before getting snatched up by a prep school

 

[broller]

you're being disingenuous which everyone can see. lebron gets criticized by everyone from former players to analysts in his role in how the NBA turned into a buddy system but yea let's pretend he didn't.

bu bu but he's from the hood and has that dog in them. it's the suburban kids who are to blame. mentioning steph curry as if he didn't follow the lebron path to creating superteams.

I think the difference with Curry is he stayed on his original team, won a ring and they added only one player to their team. And then subsequently won a chip without that player.

 

[CantStop]

I think the difference with Curry is he stayed on his original team, won a ring and they added only one player to their team. And then subsequently won a chip without that player.

Exactly. I didn’t even like that comp to Bron but even if u feel that way, he wasn’t the leader of that movement which destroys that point.

 

[IsThatBrothaMouzone?]

This is the worst post you have ever made. My nikka you literally said it is more impressive for someone who has every resource to not fukk yo the bag than it is for someone with no resources to go get the bag. And that in a nutshell is why there is no class consciousness is the United States and why we have all this economic inequality. People of means think it was all their own merit or it was deserved and people without means are taught to admire them even when their story has little connection. Kobe is my favorite basketball player ever and there isn’t a single thing about his story more impressive than the LeBron James story.

But the bigger point that you’re missing is that nothing in America is a meritocracy but we always felt that sports was. It was the one place where you could get to the top off just talent and hard work. The recent trends have turned basketball into the same thing as every other facet of American society from law to finance to engineering and business.

This 100%.

Look at the NFL. If a breh wants to be a running back or defensive tackle, he can grow up in the projects...good to a hood azz high school and still end up a 1st rd draft pick.

However....if a dude wants to be a QB, he's going to need to attend more camps and utilize private coaches. There are still some rags to riches QBs like Dak and Lamar but we're seeing more Mayfield, Mahomes, Murray type guys that are being groomed from Day 1. Not surprisingly NFL QBs are starting to get contracts that rival NBA player contracts (see Deshaun Watson).

NFL has adjusted the rules to make the QBs more important and integral to team success. They've always been important but now they're A LOT MORE important. QBs tend to be much more white and middle/upper middle class than other positions...I'd bet compared to say, running backs. That's not an accident. They basically want all the money in the hands of mostly white QBs and any super talented black QBs over the Emmitt Smith, Barry Sanders brehs.

It would be like if the NBA had 60% of Centers being white...but everyone else was Black but then the NBA adjusted the rules to favor Centers to the detriment of other positions where mostly everyone was Black. Then all the money flowed to the Center position. That's the NFL.

 

[Bryan Danielson]

Why does suburbs automatically mean white to some of y’all?

There are tons of majority black suburbs in America. And why do some black folks equate to not struggling mean you aren’t really black.

These days suburbs could be more of a “trench” than big cities with gentrification.

Some in the coli just ignorant, stupid, and not consistent with they views.

Pretending they care about this or shytting on this when the the same folks that be shytting on players that came from the PROJECTS became one of the all time greats in the NBA. While praising the ones that lived in luxury, traveled the world, and maybe had a dad that was in the NBA

IJS

 

[AlbertPullhoez]

D-Rose
Iverson
Melo from B-more
Derozan from Compton (technically a suburb, but…)
Z-Bo
Draymond
Stephen Jackson
Miles Bridges
Monta Ellis
Jason Richardson
Paul pierce
KD?

Plenty of Caron Butler, Tony Allen, Mo-Pete types…Shannon brown from maywood, any East St. Louis players, flint, Detroit, chi, etc. or rural/country areas like Mississippi.

Dejounte Murray

 

[SAINT]

Anyone who says “dog in them” un-ironically should never be taken seriously for any kind of sports discussion.

 

[FaygoMI]

If you're good enough they will find you. No reason to hate on Black people being middle class AND good enough.

 

[#1 pick]

nikkas from the trenches on the Hawks:
Capela from the trenches of Geneva. He didn't have much growing up
Other than that, no one. The others came from blue collar or middle class situations. Capela is the only one from the hood.

 

[Red Money]

The only time the league seemed flooded wit hood nikkas imo was the early 2000’s

The 80’s and 90’s didn’t give me that type of vibe

1991/92 On Fresh Prince Will thought he was Better than G Money cause he didn't realize G Money was a homeboy when they played Malibu prep. If you didn't have tough breaks you was fodder and deserved no respect.

Real life Jalen Rose hated Grant Hill for a period of time.

Outside of the NBA air felt like if you wasn't from the hood you wasn't even allowed on the court. You had to be sunset park. Seemed like a suburb vs city rivalry back in the day all black sports. Not to mention all black sports wanted a city kid from slums as seen to be tougher.


As time went on it was just intimidation tactics from people that lived amongst black on black crime hating on suburbanites and it eventually came to rest and anyone could play these sports.


I'm kinda rambling...but Kobe was seen as Oreo and soft until he caught the case and got credibility.... he's wasn't real in the Iverson era.

 

[Lord Beasley]

the money involved in this shyt is freezing a specifically demo out, i agree with that. how folks are addressing it seems sloppy tho