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Still better than them :samDucktales: after dark games :beutusDamn:


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OMG Silver. Put the gotdamn logos back on the courts so the people will tune in cause they’ll understand the importance of this series :damn:

Also, and y’all do this time and time again, stop equating viral clips and social media engagement to actual eyeballs on the product and interest. shyt has been debunked to have zero correlation to expected outcomes and results. Plenty of folks love Shawshank Redemption but guess what? shyt bombed at the box office where and when it mattered.
 
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there's not enough star power in the league. Why everyone runs from this reality is crazy. Those days might be over because the league is incapable of producing even a Caitlin Clark-esque figure.

To make it worse, there's a GENERATIONAL superstar in the draft every year, which cheapens the word.


The NBA is witnessing the carnage they set up by convincing basketball fans that only 5-6 teams are worth your time
. Now, it works internationally, but internationally, whether it's soccer or basketball, only a handful of teams are worth your time too, so they're used to that. We tend to tune shyt out when our team is out.


None of these youngins aee appealing to y'all now that y'all know so much about them.
Did the league do that or is that the way it shook out? They definitely rode the stars but those stars kept winning. We are actually in an interesting and unprecedented place where your biggest stars arent running shyt or at least in the running. So you have your huge draws on one side and your best teams on the other. And its exposing how much more of a draw stars have been.

Now if you wanna talk about what the league did to themselves...with the expanded playoffs and the caps, maxes, and aprons and the zone they have limited the impact of individual stars and made it more about over team and team construction and team play...and dont nobody (average, casual fan) wanna see that :manny:
 

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Market size and marketing of teams overall is the result of why ratings are at historic lows. ESPN/TNT have been horrible in trying to market teams over players. I know Charles Barkley tried to big up OKC & Cleveland this year when ESPN was insinuating that the Luka trade saved the NBA, but overall both networks do a poor job of trying to cover the league and the importance of the regular season.

I’m gonna throw this out there too. SGA is not a particularly captivating, nor a marketable MVP. He’s getting a lot of hate online for his foul baiting, which has led to people not really rooting for the small market Thunder. It’s not good when your MVP is not American, not marketable and his style of play is the subject of ridicule & scorn. If you replace SGA with Luka, Giannis or Wemby, the ratings would definitely be higher, because those guys at least try to be marketable.
 

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Did the league do that or is that the way it shook out? They definitely rode the stars but those stars kept winning. We are actually in an interesting and unprecedented place where your biggest stars arent running shyt or at least in the running. So you have your huge draws on one side and your best teams on the other. And its exposing how much more of a draw stars have been.

Now if you wanna talk about what the league did to themselves...with the expanded playoffs and the caps, maxes, and aprons and the zone they have limited the impact of individual stars and made it more about over team and team construction and team play...and dont nobody (average, casual fan) wanna see that :manny:
Man speak for yourself. The “ohhhh girl” :gurl: types masquerading as basketball fans being the loudest is the problem
 

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"Thursday’s Pacers-Thunder NBA Finals Game 1 averaged a 4.7 rating and 8.91 million viewers on ABC"

TO PUT THINGS INTO PERSPECTIVE
THE KNICKS/CELTICS HAD
A 2ND ROUND GAME THAT DREW
8.12 MILLION ON TNT...

THE LAKERS/WOLVES
DID 7.35 MILLION IN THE 1ST ROUND
ON ABC
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1) Two smaller market teams - and not enough casual sports fans are familiar with the players on both teams. SGA, Chet, Haliburton, Siakam, etc just aren’t household names yet. Hali has the best shot, especially if they co-market him with Caitlyn

2) The athletic, frenetic style with a lot of missed shots and turnovers is just not an appealing style of basketball to watch IMO

3) I went to bed in the middle of the game assuming OKC would win. Woke up to a Pacers win. I will be paying closer attention now. But I think 8:30 is a bit late. Make it 8 or 7:30.
 

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CAVS VS SPURS
IS THE LOWEST RATED FINALS
OF ALL TIME.

2 SMALL MARKETS

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Spurs were masters at dragging any series they were in to the ground regardless of who was on the other side because that team took on the personality of Duncan who had no interest in any of this. There's hating a team enough to invest time in watching hoping they lose and hating a team to where you'll find something else to do. The Spurs were the latter.
1) Two smaller market teams - and not enough casual sports fans are familiar with the players on both teams. SGA, Chet, Haliburton, Siakam, etc just aren’t household names yet. Hali has the best shot, especially if they co-market him with Caitlyn

2) The athletic, frenetic style with a lot of missed shots and turnovers is just not an appealing style of basketball to watch IMO

3) I went to bed in the middle of the game assuming OKC would win. Woke up to a Pacers win. I will be paying closer attention now. But I think 8:30 is a bit late. Make it 8 or 7:30.
Caitlin Clark can't even play for the Fever right now. She has no bearing on what's going on with this series.


Now yes, neither team has a large stanbase (which hurts any league that ain't the NFL) since when those fans stop watching they're not as invested in the rest of the playoffs. However, the way to cultivate that is by being in these series and perhaps being good enough to make it back, which both teams are capable of doing for different reasons. Those fans who only root for players gotta go somewhere after the LeBron's, KD',s Kyries, and Stephs go away. All we kinda know is that if Flagg is the real deal, white people might stand behind him. Everyone else, consider the next 3-4 years an audition for those fans.
 

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Caitlin Clark can't even play for the Fever right now. She has no bearing on what's going on with this series.


Now yes, neither team has a large stanbase (which hurts any league that ain't the NFL) since when those fans stop watching they're not as invested in the rest of the playoffs. However, the way to cultivate that is by being in these series and perhaps being good enough to make it back, which both teams are capable of doing for different reasons. Those fans who only root for players gotta go somewhere after the LeBron's, KD',s Kyries, and Stephs go away. All we kinda know is that if Flagg is the real deal, white people might stand behind him. Everyone else, consider the next 3-4 years an audition for those fans.


Born, Steph, KD etc all retiring in the next few years means NBA needs to start properly marketing these new starts. Haliburton, Brunson, etc are clearly marketable (Shai is a bit different but no reason why he can’t be too). But they haven’t even tried to market these dudes until the past couple of weeks. The Caitlin Clark thing was more of a long-term idea for them to get Hali bigger. But the point is that the NBA needs to lean into the new generation of stars today. The NBA could really use Flagg actually hitting as you mention
 

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Spurs were masters at dragging any series they were in to the ground regardless of who was on the other side because that team took on the personality of Duncan who had no interest in any of this. There's hating a team enough to invest time in watching hoping they lose and hating a team to where you'll find something else to do. The Spurs were the latter.

NAH THOSE SPURS/HEAT FINALS
DID NUMBERS...

LAKERS/SPURS USED TO DO NUMBERS TOO

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NAH THOSE SPURS/HEAT FINALS
DID NUMBERS...

LAKERS/SPURS USED TO DO NUMBERS TOO

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Peak Heat was super polarizing. You had a strong emotion either way, to the point where if you hated the Heat, the Spurs winning was welcome. The Kobe/Shaq Lakers were that way too. Those early Cavs teams were just LeBron and little else.

To Halliburton’s credit, he’s working on getting everyone to hate him one city at a time. OKC won’t get that strong reaction til they win. Once they do, fans will start rooting for an against them heavily because they have the ingredients to run this league til the next decade.
 
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