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what happens to the rights if so?

And who would buy ABC?

edit: Amazon purchasing ABC would be a slick move, they'd have the Finals since the contract is grandfathered in right? :patrice:
I would think due to corporate structure ESPN is seperate it has a deal to simulcast ESPN shows on ABC, so ABC would have nothing if it was sold, unless the new owners would want to pay ESPN for the rights to broadcast or something like that.

That said I just did an update. Byron Allen was trying to buy ABC from Disney. Now, as of 3-4 months ago, looks like Iger has found new value in broadcast tv and stated he wants to keep ABC now.
 

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If I was on the Board of Governors for the NBA, the only ones who could compete and bid on the main packages would have to be broadcast, especially since the regional networks are dead. Amazon, youtube tv, they could get delayed rights or some cutouts, but it makes no sense for a league to not want their product on broadcast where even people with attentas could see. How the NFL is the only one that grasped that, but seems to be forgetting that, and college football, SEC made sure prime SEC games still were on CBS, Big 10 locked down Fox, Notre Dame locked down NBC. I just don't understand.

Baseball isn't popular in the US outside of geriatrics due to loss of visaility same with hockey.
money is too big on streaming so I get that strategy. shyt, even the NFL is drifting more into that territory. But Broadcast TV should always be option 1 for the eyes alone.
 

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money is too big on streaming so I get that strategy. shyt, even the NFL is drifting more into that territory. But Broadcast TV should always be option 1 for the eyes alone.
The money is big in streaming but you are cutting off the vine of future growth by going that way. MLB and NHL did that for cable money and it cost them future growth, imho. NBA kept sunday games on ABC and would have the finals, but other than that no one would see regular season cames like the 90s where you could catch it on tv.

Maybe if the NFL allowed streamers to resell their tv rights to local or broadcast networks they could get the upfront money and ensure broadcast access was always present for games.

That said looks like NFL owners will be starting tv negotiations next year
 

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The money is big in streaming but you are cutting off the vine of future growth by going that way. MLB and NHL did that for cable money and it cost them future growth, imho. NBA kept sunday games on ABC and would have the finals, but other than that no one would see regular season cames like the 90s where you could catch it on tv.

Maybe if the NFL allowed streamers to resell their tv rights to local or broadcast networks they could get the upfront money and ensure broadcast access was always present for games.

That said looks like NFL owners will be starting tv negotiations next year

That's why I said that Broadcast should always have Tier 1 rights, but you have to look to the future as well. These youngins barely watch anything on broadcast TV and they are your future consumer base. It's phone and Netflix/streaming shyt. But Amazon does a good job with their Thursday night NFL presentation wise so it can be done. I liked what they've done so far on the NBA too.

The problem to me is that ABC/ESPN presentation was so :unimpressed: . Having talkin heads always shytting on the game didn't help either. Have balance and talk up the game. NBC openly stated they were going to promote the game more and stay away from the gossip shyt. Make the games feel important.
 

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75% of the comments in this thread are about LeBron. And folks were worrying about what he was doing on the sidelines: he wasn’t doing enough of this and he was doing too much of that. And the Lakers got smacked without him.

Thought Luka was gunna carry the way without the old man? 😍
 
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That's why I said that Broadcast should always have Tier 1 rights, but you have to look to the future as well. These youngins barely watch anything on broadcast TV and they are your future consumer base. It's phone and Netflix/streaming shyt. But Amazon does a good job with their Thursday night NFL presentation wise so it can be done. I liked what they've done so far on the NBA too.

The problem to me is that ABC/ESPN presentation was so :unimpressed: . Having talkin heads always shytting on the game didn't help either. Have balance and talk up the game. NBC openly stated they were going to promote the game more and stay away from the gossip shyt. Make the games feel important.
Those kids will be back to watching tv on broadcast as their moms and dads start cutting expenses. These 20 and 30 year olds are broke living off their parents. I can understand in investing and having a streaming presence, and I understand getting that money, but having the ability to see a game without a subscription to anything and on regular tv can't be disregarded and I think a lot of these leagues did it or are doing it to their detriment.

I understand the want for a narrative, but by the breakdown in the importance of conferences, divisions, you can't make a damn story for any game because that shyt doesn't matter. They let over half the damn league in the fukking playoffs so you have to have something.

If they limit cross conference play and make eastern conference play only eastern conference teams and majority the teams in their division you could build a story in every fukking game because now we have stakes and it matters.
 

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Those kids will be back to watching tv on broadcast as their moms and dads start cutting expenses. These 20 and 30 year olds are broke living off their parents. I can understand in investing and having a streaming presence, and I understand getting that money, but having the ability to see a game without a subscription to anything and on regular tv can't be disregarded and I think a lot of these leagues did it or are doing it to their detriment.

I understand the want for a narrative, but by the breakdown in the importance of conferences, divisions, you can't make a damn story for any game because that shyt doesn't matter. They let over half the damn league in the fukking playoffs so you have to have something.

If they limit cross conference play and make eastern conference play only eastern conference teams and majority the teams in their division you could build a story in every fukking game because now we have stakes and it matters.

The cross conference play is only 2 games a year per team fam :skip:

Them kids are not going back to being Broadcast TV watchers like that. They are engrained and addicted to their phones. Dat ship been sailed. But you can take advantage of that by having the Broadcast TV games free on their apps. Not sure if you can watch the free NBC Broadcast TV games through Peacock for free. IF not, then the NBC needs to make that happen immediately and CONSTANTLY promote it so the youngins can do it. That's the play IMO.
 

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When NBC and the NBA split 25 yrs ago, neither could have predicted or forecasted how the entire landscape would've changed in every decade. No one today wants to pay for cable, or constantly cycle through different apps just to see live sports.

It's coming back full circle. And this probably proved that the NBA needed NBC more. Their entire presentation, even after the drought, is straight up better. I wish Costas could've gotten a few games, and I still miss Snapper Jones.
 

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It’s actually unreal how obsessed you are. You walked into a thread about ratings and the first thing on your mind was a dude who didn’t even play.

The ratings are up because the games are on network TV. It’s really that simple. That same model is why NBC nfl games vastly outrate ESPN ones. Cable is where ratings go to die.

You will conveniently ignore the fact that LeBron kept the NBA afloat for nearly 20 years and pretty much all of the highest rated regular season and playoff series involve him.

You will ignore the fact that the finals he’s participated in have been the most watched since Jordan. (2013 Game 7 26.2m, 2016 Game 7 31.2m, nothing else is close in the modern era except Lakers-Celtics G7 2010, keep in mind that’s a storied rivalry between 2 major sports markets.)

You will ignore every fact presented to you because you’re an obsessed fakkit. Your mother should’ve swallowed you.
boy, i hope you wrote this post in eastcoast time because it is way too early to be this :mad: and write a whole passage defending a grown man who doesn't know you

this hlf cac even edited this post 10 minutes after posting it :laff:
 
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