The Amerikkkan Idol
The Amerikkkan Nightmare
In reality, however, you still generally aren't gonna come up out of desperate circumstances before 20. And as I stated before, top athletes generally have it better. nikkas that don't have that athletic ability are the real ones in need of theing.
Both sides need each other. Trust me, these billionaire owners would be far better off with no league than the players would.
I thought that is what the NBDL was for too. If they actually ran it right this whole convo would be moot.
Lebron and Kobe eventually became Lebron and Kobe and they were always gonna eventually be Lebron and Kobe. That was my point. The key word is "eventually" though. They weren't that out the gate (especially Kobe, Bron was an exception) so what they eventually became (after being eligible under an age limit) is immaterial when discussing an age limit. I don't see what is so hard to get about this. nikkas are bemoaning an age limit and steadily using shyt nikkas did AFTER they passed the age limit age as their support. How do cats not see how backwards this is? No one is saying that college will make you better if you don't have talent but history has shown the top/most talented/the best/not the scrubs ya'll keep trouting out players do come out of the gates faster after going though.
You are right. Guys like Mike, Shaq, Duncan, Dream, Zo, Bird, Magic, Big O, David Robinson, AI, Wilt etc. weren't shyt when they came into the league. If guys truly developed earlier this would be a moot convo.
Dude, musicians, actors/actresses, along with every other type of athlete in the world can come out of poverty before 20 years old.
Michelle Wie was playing golf tournaments at 13
Sharapova, The Williams Sisters, Kournikova, and them were playing at 14
You have Olympic gymnasts on the Wheaties box at 15/16
Freddie Adu was 13 when he became a professional soccer player.
MMA fighters, boxers, hockey Players and baseball players can play at 18.
You've not given me ONE reason why everybody else I mentioned can make a living in Amerikkka, but for Black football/basketball players born in here can not.
That is it.
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Lebron was Lebron at 18, which is why he was Rookie of the Year, so was Amare Stoudemire and Dwight Howard. They were better than all the rookies who went to college the years they came out.
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There's also plenty of guys who go to college and develop later.
Scottie Pippen went to college for 4 years and was a guy who averaged 7 points a game as a rookie
He didn't turn into a Hall of Famer until like his 3rd or 4th season, which would put him at about 26, 27 once he actually got good.
Kobe Bryant got good in his 3rd year too, but he was 21 at the time.
If anything it seems like in general 3 or 4 years is what it usually takes for someone to be great and they can either be great at 21/22 or they can be great at 25/26
THAT is why the owners don't want it.
They don't want to have to dole out a max contract at 21 and another at 26, then another at 31. They'd rather have that max contract at like 25 then you get another one and then you're basically done
. Like I said before, the money piece might have merit if the majority of the highest earners of all time weren't 20 or 21 when entering the league and if salaries weren't double capped. Honestly it seems like the guys who go to college seem to stick around longer.
