Neil deGrasse Tyson Talks about Being Black

[jilla82]

so that begs the question...is it race or culture that is the real problem (of black people)?
Because he clearly succeeded because of his work ethic, he's smart, and his parents supported him...regardless of the "white power structure" folks love to talk about.

 

[bigDeeOT]

Neil talking reminds me of the scene in Malcolm X with him and his elementary school teacher.



Figures of authority telling impressionable children they ain't shyt, yet 'enlightened' folks like @bigDeeOT trying to tell us that they should have all the knowledge in the world and make it in spite of that. And if they don't it's their fault and a result of their genetic inferiority.

Except again, you fail to realize that malcom x made it big, in SPITE of his "figure of authority" telling him he aint shyt.

 

[Handsback]

Neil talking reminds me of the scene in Malcolm X with him and his elementary school teacher.



Figures of authority telling impressionable children they ain't shyt, yet 'enlightened' folks like @bigDeeOT trying to tell us that they should have all the knowledge in the world and make it in spite of that. And if they don't it's their fault and a result of their genetic inferiority.

Let me be clear that the line is drawn in the sand. You either recognize our greatness and work on inspiring that or you just the enemy. See you on the other side of the line, friend.

Off topic but that exchange with his teacher always gets me thinking. I think Malcolm recognized that as an important moment in his life so what if his teacher had reacted differently? What if she encouraged him to become a lawyer? He sure had the ability to be one. He wouldn't have gone to prison and possibly wouldn't have joined the Nation of Islam. We might've never had a Malcolm X. Just strikes me as one of those little forces of nature that affect world history.

 

[bigDeeOT]

And for the record I don't place all the blame on the children. I understand that if you grow up in a certain environment without the right role models, its very hard to have any motivation. The problem lies in the black community as a whole, in its failure to do anything to fix the problem.

 

[Hawaiian Punch]

Except again, you fail to realize that malcom x made it big, in SPITE of his "figure of authority" telling him he aint shyt.

Do you even think before you type? I would suggest reading the Autobiography of Malcolm X before you jump to conclusions. Matter of fact just read period, because it's an insult to my intelligence constantly having to explain things to you. Yes he did make it, after he was a petty thief and junkie and did a 10 year prison sentence. Matter of fact it wasn't until he went to jail that he was introduced to Islam and became someone who 'made it big' as you say.

 

[Tommy Knocks]

 

[Hawaiian Punch]

Off topic but that exchange with his teacher always gets me thinking. I think Malcolm recognized that as an important moment in his life so what if his teacher had reacted differently? What if she encouraged him to become a lawyer? He sure had the ability to be one. He wouldn't have gone to prison and possibly wouldn't have joined the Nation of Islam. We might've never had a Malcolm X. Just strikes me as one of those little forces of nature that affect world history.

I do agree with you, but there was something about his spirit that would have guided him to what he became. Personally I think Malcolm X was a born leader. There are just certain qualities that you cannot teach. I still believe that had he been properly encouraged as a youth and became a lawyer he still would have been an activist or community leader. Plus keep in mind that his father being killed by the klan and the injustices his mother faced would had shaped him enough to desire change.

 

[bigDeeOT]

Do you even think before you type? I would suggest reading the Autobiography of Malcolm X before you jump to conclusions. Matter of fact just read period, because it's an insult to my intelligence constantly having to explain things to you. Yes he did make it, after he was a petty thief and junkie and did a 10 year prison sentence. Matter of fact it wasn't until he went to jail that he was introduced to Islam and became someone who 'made it big' as you say.

At the end of the day, malcom x made it big in spite of racism.
So did neil degrasse tyson

 

[tmonster]

You know what the funny thing about his response is though? He claims to have undergone discrimination and faced many roadblocks throughout his life right? Well guess what, look where he's at now? He made it to the top of the world, in SPITE of living in an age of racism and "white supremacy."

take it easy breh, you are not required to type stuff just because you have a keyboard, we're free now:zfg:

 

[tmonster]

At the end of the day, malcom x made it big in spite of racism.
So did neil degrasse tyson

.................................the is :sweetjeezus:

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

I find your myopic view of the world frightening. I don't celebrate one person who 'makes' it, but rather lament all those who did not because they were never given the proper encouragement. But still everything is fine with you because he made it. Yet still you have those who make it past the roadblocks of their environment, excel in school and yet are denied the simplest of job interviews because their name sounds too ethnic. Stick to threads about black people killing each other breh, you strive better in threads like that.

This is a rather loaded response.

Getting to NDTs level itself is super rare, even to be an astrophysicist isn't something you find a lot of people doing.

ANNNNNNNNNNNNND you're already a minority so.....

 

[Hawaiian Punch]

This is a rather loaded response.

Getting to NDTs level itself is super rare, even to be an astrophysicist isn't something you find a lot of people doing.

ANNNNNNNNNNNNND you're already a minority so.....

Trust me breh I have a LOT in common with NDT from a career standpoint. More than you can imagine. As much as I respect all that he has accomplished, it just hurts me that so many capable brothers and sisters are denied that opportunity because of the environment they exist in.

The fact is Neil came from a home environment that had two successful parents who encouraged creativity. We find that children, both black and white, who come out of environments like this typically become successful themselves. Would the outcome had been the same if he had a single mother and lived in the projects? Maybe but it would have been a lot tougher.

The vitriol I have aimed at c00ns like @bigDeeOT is they suggest genetic inferiority within my people. As if socioeconomic conditions don't result in the similar outcome for any race. Ignoring the fact that half the US is filled with methed out slums full of white trash. The nerve of these c00ns, these Yaqubs who trade in labcoats for keyboards.

 

[Hawaiian Punch]

so that begs the question...is it race or culture that is the real problem (of black people)?
Because he clearly succeeded because of his work ethic, he's smart, and his parents supported him...regardless of the "white power structure" folks love to talk about.

Culture. It starts at home, with parents setting an example to their kids. Reading to them and instilling proper discipline. That's the most difficult thing, because it's hard to be that example if that example was never given to you. Far too often it's easy just to plop a kid in front of a tv, or expect the teacher to do all the teaching. Being a parent is a full time commitment and as a parent I can tell you it involves a lot of sacrifice.

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

You know what the funny thing about his response is though? He claims to have undergone discrimination and faced many roadblocks throughout his life right? Well guess what, look where he's at now? He made it to the top of the world, in SPITE of living in an age of racism and "white supremacy."

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Trust me breh I have a LOT in common with NDT from a career standpoint. More than you can imagine. As much as I respect all that he has accomplished, it just hurts me that so many capable brothers and sisters are denied that opportunity because of the environment they exist in.

The fact is Neil came from a home environment that had two successful parents who encouraged creativity. We find that children, both black and white, who come out of environments like this typically become successful themselves. Would the outcome had been the same if he had a single mother and lived in the projects? Maybe but it would have been a lot tougher.

The vitriol I have aimed at c00ns like @bigDeeOT is they suggest genetic inferiority within my people. As if socioeconomic conditions don't result in the similar outcome for any race. Ignoring the fact that half the US is filled with methed out slums full of white trash. The nerve of these c00ns, these Yaqubs who trade in labcoats for keyboards.

I don't see your argument.