Nelly Blowing Up In 2000 Is One Of The Greatest Stories In The History Of Rap

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Naw,they got a lil attention but if you got them views and cant translate it to anything,how big is it really?

They had more than a lil attention.

You can't compare 2000 to 2011. Youngsters will always share and discuss music, but the specifics and audience measurements will change. No one really buys music anymore.

Live.Love.ASAP/Purple Swag went viral out of nowhere. Had millions of views and downloads. In today's age where it's getting hard to get views, that's no small feat. Tracks off the mixtape he did that didn't have videos like "Bass"... I remember that shyt racking up views in the millions. There were 2 accounts that "Bass" in the millions of views at the same time.

And considering that Rocky became an international touring artist nearly overnight, I'm gonna say it translated to a lot of shyt. Rocky still has a cult following, and it's bigger than you think.

Nelly came out of nowhere. So did Rocky. That's all. How good their music is is another debate.
 

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Nelly was making Hip-pop, along with Ja Rule and them.

Commercially, what he did was big.

AS AN hip-Hop fan :camby:
 

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Another emotional, smiley-heavy post.

I'm getting to the point where I just skip this kinda stuff. None of you ever offer an argument, and that's all I'm interested in. For most of y'all, it's just a bunch of loose statements and "look at this gif laughing at you" crap. It's so boring.

I'm too old for that.

Funny you was on my dikk in that Aaliyah thread where I agreed with you,using plenty of smileys and WackyD even noting it...Now because I have a argument with you its a problem?...I wasn't laughing at you I was laughing at your hero,apparently you got emotional,skip it then nikka....Don't come back to tell me YOUR offended by a non offensive post and call me emotional:childplease:...Sidestepping arguments because you realize you don't have one is boring:heh:

I made my point as well as bigbadbossup:salute:
 

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They had more than a lil attention.

You can't compare 2000 to 2011. Youngsters will always share and discuss music, but the specifics and audience measurements will change. No one really buys music anymore.

Live.Love.ASAP/Purple Swag went viral out of nowhere. Had millions of views and downloads. In today's age where it's getting hard to get views, that's no small feat. Tracks off the mixtape he did that didn't have videos like "Bass"... I remember that shyt racking up views in the millions. There were 2 accounts that "Bass" in the millions of views at the same time.

And considering that Rocky became an international touring artist nearly overnight, I'm gonna say it translated to a lot of shyt. Rocky still has a cult following, and it's bigger than you think.
Then you shouldnt had tried
 

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Funny you was on my dikk in that Aaliyah thread where I agreed with you,using plenty of smileys and WackyD even noting it...Now because I have a argument with you its a problem?...I wasn't laughing at you I was laughing at your hero,apparently you got emotional,skip it then nikka....Don't come back to tell me YOUR offended by a non offensive post and call me emotional:childplease:...Sidestepping arguments because you realize you don't have one is boring:heh:

I made my point as well as bigbadbossup:salute:

I don't remember the Aaliyah thread in depth but it's good to see you're on my nuts remembering everything I say.

I was probably laughing at Wacky at that point because he, like you, was so insistent on not presenting arguments/receipts. I wasted posts trying to understand his POV and build an argument. And instead of him respecting my effort and the debate as a whole, all he did was respond with loose statements and smileys.

So when you came in that Aaliyah thread and further exposed how delusional he was, I started laughing. Not quite the same thing as this thread but nice try.

Fact of the matter... if someone makes a case about something, my first response isn't going to be filled with smileys like a child. I'm gonna state my argument.

You and Wacky D are similar like that. Your first instinct is to laugh and brush off arguments rather than take on the challenge. Which makes me think you're dumb ass nikkas in disguise, because that's what dumb ass nikkas do.
 

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They had more than a lil attention.

You can't compare 2000 to 2011. Youngsters will always share and discuss music, but the specifics and audience measurements will change. No one really buys music anymore.

Live.Love.ASAP/Purple Swag went viral out of nowhere. Had millions of views and downloads. In today's age where it's getting hard to get views, that's no small feat. Tracks off the mixtape he did that didn't have videos like "Bass"... I remember that shyt racking up views in the millions. There were 2 accounts that "Bass" in the millions of views at the same time.

And considering that Rocky became an international touring artist nearly overnight, I'm gonna say it translated to a lot of shyt. Rocky still has a cult following, and it's bigger than you think.

Nelly came out of nowhere. So did Rocky. That's all. How good their music is is another debate.
But he came out of nowhere to do what though? luke warm shyt.
Like i said,even scale wise,he cant compare.
Nelly was right behind em.
ASAP is behind drake,wayne,kanye,nicki,jay,eminem,wiz khalifa,macklemore,iggy azalea, etc.
see the difference?
 

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But he came out of nowhere to do what though? luke warm shyt.
Like i said,even scale wise,he cant compare.
Nelly was right behind em.
ASAP is behind drake,wayne,kanye,nicki,jay,eminem,wiz khalifa,macklemore,iggy azalea, etc.
see the difference?

You keep bringing up scale, and I'm saying the shyt is irrelevant.

Fact of the matter is that Nelly came out of nowhere. Rocky came out of nowhere. His first mixtape made him a star. That's all I'm saying.

I'm not saying he shined brighter than Nelly or even close to Nelly. The idea of someone coming out from nowhere is the central true scenario.

You guys are trying so hard not to see my basic point. It's really quite hilarious. Because anyone with a brain knows exactly what I'm talking about.

 

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Well our debate is based off you comparing him to nelly. so..... it's in context

SCENARIO my dude....

You're like that guy when someone says, "New York and Toronto both have subway systems, unlike most cities", and you're screaming... "New York's is way larger!!"

Besides the point.
 

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You keep bringing up scale, and I'm saying the shyt is irrelevant.

Fact of the matter is that Nelly came out of nowhere. Rocky came out of nowhere. His first mixtape made him a star. That's all I'm saying.

I'm not saying he shined brighter than Nelly or even close to Nelly. The idea of someone coming out from nowhere is the central true scenario.

You guys are trying so hard not to see my basic point. It's really quite hilarious. Because anyone with a brain knows exactly what I'm talking about.


Naw YOU DONT GET IT. You need to compare him to some lesser nikka if you got a point to prove and NOT a nikka that was 10 levels above him. And alot of nikkas came out of nowhere without big features and had mild success. Compare him to them
 

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Naw YOU DONT GET IT. You need to compare him to some lesser nikka if you got a point to prove and NOT a nikka that was 10 levels above him.

SCENARIO my dude....

You're like that guy when someone says, "New York and Toronto both have subway systems, unlike most cities", and you're screaming... "New York's is way larger!!"

Besides the point.

Do you know how hard it is to have a convo with someone like you? You're the type of cat I'd say "man... just go home. You aint built for this." lol

And alot of nikkas came out of nowhere without big features and had mild success. Compare him to them

Rocky had one feature outside of his own unknown crew on Live.Love.ASAP. And that was Schoolboy Q, who was nowhere near an established artist.

Let's name a rapper who had zero major features and, blew up off his first project, and is still around 4 years later like Rocky. With a first project that people still consider to be a hip hop highlight. You say that's "A lot of nikkas".

Which means you have a lot of receipts for me.
 

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