Nelly: Chief Keef Made Mistake With Record Deal

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Nelly is a much better business man then he is an Artist.[/QUOTE

He's been a very successful recording artist.

At the end of the day, it's very difficult to crack a wide audience when you're independent. Nobody knew who J Cole was before he signed to Hov. Meek has been bubbling for years before he broke bread with Rozay. For most artists with vision of doing big numbers you have to go major eventually.

If you can get to the stage where you are bubbling nationally as an independent you are truly a rare breed. Even those look very suspect as they often have very obvious industry connects.

Dude up top sounds naive. If you're getting Wayne, Bun B, Trey features on your mix tape. You either signed or have amazing relationships within the major recording industry. To me it's obvious he was signed before SFG.

Same with Wiz and Kendrick. K dot was all up in that popular J Rock video. A dude signed to Interscope. Worked with Dre around the time of OD so its obvious he BEEN signed.

Wiz released an album 6 mints before OJnKush. shyt came and went with little fanfare. With OJ n Kusg he's on MTV.


Point is, get your weight up if you can. Most can't.
Watch this video where Jim Jones is kicking game to Meek, I'm on te iPhone now but someone find it. Meek is talking all this independent shyt. Jim was like, that's dope but will only get you so far. At some point you'll have to break bread maybe take a bad deal. You can renegotiate after your first album anyway as then sign a longer deal. Meek eventually signs with Rozay and everything Jim said came true.

Cats that have been independent and major have the best insight on this issue. Check how Cassidy and Bobby V talk about being interested in a major. Bobby V even went GOLD independent.
 

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Man, this is the crazy part. In 2013, all of this info about how majors work, how indie "labels" operate, how 360 deals pan out, and how publishing generates money... all of that is out there to read and study up on.

And there are still folks coming here and running around talking about all of this as if they know what they're talking about. And they don't. :dwillhuh:

If you think being indie is as easy as making a bunch of songs, calling up local venues to do shows, dropping a few mixtapes and some videos on Youtube, and you just... TAKE off after a few years... you are sadly mistaken.

On the other hand, signing to a 360 on a major when you have no other marketable qualities besides just rapping... is just as wasteful.

And there are plenty of indie labels out there that are just basically smaller major labels with the same kind of set up and contracts available. They just take less of your cut (and I don't mean that much less, either). So some artists are "indie" in a sense yet still getting the same bullshyt as if they're on a major...

Some of you should read up on all this before you speak on it. You may fare a lot better in terms of understanding the music industry. It really isn't for just anyone at all.
 

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Chief Keef's best play was prolly the Gucci Mane/Yo Gotti model...being a mainly mixtape based artist that constantly toured the hood club scene, making that his primary way of eating...and messing with the majors with one of those pseudo-indie situations, with a low overhead so there isn't a crazy expectation of big sales and so much to recoup...looking at the deal he ended up signing, it seems cool...except that they set his benchmark for sales way too high (250K in a year's time) and they'll likely drop him before it can ever be as lucrative as they (keef and his management) had hoped for...
 

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But put yaself in Keefs shoes. Would you have listened to this advice? Son was probably on some "yall can't tell me nothin" I mean he probably looked at his youtube views and thought he'd made it already.
 

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Chief was trying to get the fukk out the hood. He just struck gold with a movement that blew up real quick, since he represents the new generation to a tee. If he was an older individual with a secure place of living or a consistent paycheck, he could have did what Nelly was talking about.
 
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