New! Diamond D on the Combat Jack Show
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Great Episode of course, nothing really more to add except for the part where Reggie was going on and on about how "Punks Jump Up" made up wanna "blast on fools and how it was grimey make you wanna punch nikkas in the mouth rap" and Diamond D was just like "yeah, uh huh, yeah, yeah, word, YEAH, mmmmmmhm. 
" its like he knew Combat Jack was being hella extra. 
" its like he knew Combat Jack was being hella extra. bigbadbossup2012
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Interview was great and diamond d is dope at what he does and comes off as a real dude.
A couple of things though: I love the fact that @CombatJack had to sit there and listen to Diamond D bigging up 2pac right on his show.You could hear the discomfort and (let's move right along) tone in his voice. Pure ether.
Also when he calls Diamond's album a CLASSIC,it shows how much the east coast be on the own dikk too much. I'm not questioning the quality of it. I've never heard it (though i'll be listening to it at work tomorrow).
It reaffirms to me how and album can be an east coast classic,fail in the sales department but be talked up into a cultural phenom because alot of powerful voices and publications were rooted in the east coast.
Meanwhile for a west coast,midwest, or southern artist to have a "classic",they have to do one or more of the following:
1. Mimic an eastcoast sound and/or rapping style (ras kas,common, ice cube with bomb squad)
2. Have blockbuster undeniable success (snoop,pac,dre,nwa,)
THIS IS WHY MANY SUCCESSFUL ALBUMS THAT DID WELL (JUST NOT ON THE EAST) WILL NEVER GET AN EQUAL PLAYING FIELD HISTORICALLY AS east coast albums with similar or lesser success.
A couple of things though: I love the fact that @CombatJack had to sit there and listen to Diamond D bigging up 2pac right on his show.You could hear the discomfort and (let's move right along) tone in his voice. Pure ether.
Also when he calls Diamond's album a CLASSIC,it shows how much the east coast be on the own dikk too much. I'm not questioning the quality of it. I've never heard it (though i'll be listening to it at work tomorrow).
It reaffirms to me how and album can be an east coast classic,fail in the sales department but be talked up into a cultural phenom because alot of powerful voices and publications were rooted in the east coast.
Meanwhile for a west coast,midwest, or southern artist to have a "classic",they have to do one or more of the following:
1. Mimic an eastcoast sound and/or rapping style (ras kas,common, ice cube with bomb squad)
2. Have blockbuster undeniable success (snoop,pac,dre,nwa,)
THIS IS WHY MANY SUCCESSFUL ALBUMS THAT DID WELL (JUST NOT ON THE EAST) WILL NEVER GET AN EQUAL PLAYING FIELD HISTORICALLY AS east coast albums with similar or lesser success.
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It's interesting how stuck on this type of shyt people are... at this point, I really think people from outside the East Coast obsess over this more than any of the "East Coast biased" people do...
First off, nobody (from that era at least) gives a shyt about what something sold... some of the most liked albums from that era didn't sell shyt. Sales and radio play meant jackshyt to people from that era of rap, because some of the best albums of that time were barely going gold, while some of the wackest shyts were going platinum (Hammer, Vanilla Ice, Marky Mark, Young MC, etc) Sales (for the most part) is a moot point when discussing early-90s hip-hop.
There's also this thing people used to do, called having their own opinion. There are some who still exist, who actually determine what they think of as a classic, based on what THEY THINK and how the music was TO THEM at that time... not who else bought it or how much radio play it got. Strange, I know.
I really didn't know people had hangups about this coastal shyt, like 20+ years later...
bigbadbossup2012
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Smilies and bullshyt does not equal real talk. Everything i said was accurate.
It's interesting how stuck on this type of shyt people are... at this point, I really think people from outside the East Coast obsess over this more than any of the "East Coast biased" people do...
First off, nobody (from that era at least) gives a shyt about what something sold... some of the most liked albums from that era didn't sell shyt. Sales and radio play meant jackshyt to people from that era of rap, because some of the best albums of that time were barely going gold, while some of the wackest shyts were going platinum (Hammer, Vanilla Ice, Marky Mark, Young MC, etc) Sales (for the most part) is a moot point when discussing early-90s hip-hop.
There's also this thing people used to do, called having their own opinion. There are some who still exist, who actually determine what they think of as a classic, based on what THEY THINK and how the music was TO THEM at that time... not who else bought it or how much radio play it got. Strange, I know.
I really didn't know people had hangups about this coastal shyt, like 20+ years later...
Nah.
Everything you said is like a person who graduated high school 20 years ago, still givin' a shyt about why they weren't 'accepted' at the cool table when in reality, the cool table never actually rejected them in the first place.
bigbadbossup2012
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That's cool. You can feel that way. But prove me wrong. Say something that contradicts my statements or dispels what i'm saying. You can't, so you attack me for having an opinion. That shyt doesnt move me at all.
bigbadbossup2012
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@DaveyDave ,you're dapping his nonsense. Prove me wrong.
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I agree with what he said about sales not mattering when it comes to quality music. Especially in a time when Hip Hop wasn't as pervasive in the mainstream as it has been since the 2000s.
Being that Combat is a NY dude and from that generation of course he thinks that Diamond album is a classic. If he was bigging up some random obscure NY underground joint like Hard Knocks and calling that classic then I would have a problem with bias. I think what you're saying does occur but it's not as bad as you might think it is.
Imagine this was DaveyD from the Bay or someone in a similar position from the South doing the exact same show as Combat, they would most likely have more local acts on the show and are more likely to rely on shyt they heard from growing up and calling albums like 24 Deep, 187 He Wrote or Just Tryin Ta Live a classic.
Stunts, Blunts and Hip Hop is a classic IMO in fact XXL took the little symbols from the album cover and used them in their reviews for several years when they first started up to not of an album was for smoking, bump in the whip, lyrics, etc just a small touch that shows some of the albums influence on that generation. It's a great album, dope beats and great rhymes for someone who was primarily thought of as a producer AND he wrote his own shyt as far as I know so any MC purists out there can be happy about that too.
bigbadbossup2012
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I dont think sales automatically = quality either. But i do believe the only way outsiders of the east get their props are either by huge sales and/or an east coast sound. Bias is a very natural thing. However people from there (on this board) act as if bias is a small factor when in fact it's a huge factor.
They also act as if their local classics = overall classic,where as an album from somewhere else that everyone knows about,had huge sales but wasn't running their streets = a west coast classic or a down south classic etc.
If I said 2pacalypse now was a classic,these nikkas would act as if it's a joke.
When in fact the flagship songs on there meant more than the ones on illmatic and OB4CL.
But since it wasnt the shyt on their streets they'll act as if their bias opinion is law. All the while acting as if they're not bias at all.
For the record I dont consider 2pacalypse now a classic
bigbadbossup2012
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So even though i said it's not in my post,YOU'RE GOING TO TELL ME IT'S NOT? What's your point?
Personally i feel thuglife,matw,aeom and 7dt are classics.
My point was that half ass albums lie OB4CL or illmatic get placed alongside MATW doggystyl etc but you'll never see an unsuccessful no hit song having album from another region get placed alongside huge east coast classics
LMAOGreat Episode of course, nothing really more to add except for the part where Reggie was going on and on about how "Punks Jump Up" made up wanna "blast on fools and how it was grimey make you wanna punch nikkas in the mouth rap" and Diamond D was just like "yeah, uh huh, yeah, yeah, word, YEAH, mmmmmmhm.