New Yorkers arent aware that we're from the "North"

[JamilALAmin]

Elaborate on said distinctions please

TX/LA/Miss- Gulf coast, heavy creole influence, jambalaya, gumbo, crawfish, Mardi Gras party anywhere at any time type of culture, Slabs, Vogues, Buicks, Grand Prixs, Yat accent in LA which means its a southern accent without a drawl, mix of yat and southern drawl in TX, Miss mostly drawl but still has some of rhythmic way of talking that Yat does. Black folks from that area tend to be very aggressive, in a up north type of way. If that makes sense. Especially LA and Miss, yeah Miss is mostly rural, but that shyt is like Terrordrome in the woods

GA/FLA/Bama- Heavy Geechie influence, geechie kinda like creole without the French and Spanish, Brunswick Stew, Fish Fry's and low country boils, tends to be more religious, not as heavy a party culture like the Mardi Gras demo, which in turn created the Juke Joint culture- little spot that had to be ducked off in the woods cuz you didn't want word to get out that you was turning up at night. Chevy Caprices, Impalas, Monte Carlos, big ass rims, dreads. As a whole more laid back, but, Low country Black folks in this region are more jealous and aggressive than up country/Piedmont brehs, but still not as jealous and aggressive as LA/Miss 3rd coast brehs. The accent gets less the further south and closer to the coast you go, Geechie accent is alot faster and almost sounds up north. SAV, Chucktown, North FLA..etc. Like if you put a ATL breh and a SAV breh side by side and had them speak, you would guess the SAV breh was from the bigger city. Cuz we sound waaaay countrier than they do.

Carolinas- Damn near Mid Atlantic, a lot more European influence with the food, BBQ, liverwurst, cheerwine soda, less of an accent in NC. Even more conservative turn up wise than GA/FLA/Bama, but not as or the same level of religious. Lot more up north/east coast influence. Ford Crown Vics and Caddys, dreads too but lot of braids also. shyt load of light skinned and mixed Black folks, especially in NC. SC tends to be more like GA and NC tends to be more like VA, but they are basically the same damn thing. I don't really think they distinguish from north and south like that. Its just the Carolinas to them.

Upper south-Tenn/Arkansas/KY- industrial midwest kinda vibe, coal mines and other forms of labor like that. West Tenn is Black as shyt, but its not as many brehs in this part of the south. Poorer soil, harder to grow crops so it wasn't as many slaves as further south. Mostly really poor too tho, Memphis, Little Rock, Clarksville, Louisville, all of them are pretty rough when it comes to the Black side of things. I'd say Memphis culture dominates this region, Mtown very much has a big footprint culturally. Not even sure what type of cars for them, Ive seen some of everything the couple times ive slid thru Memphis. They for sure have an affinity for white cars up there, like damn near how it be when you in the Caribbean. Came out this hood club up there and it seemed like half the lot was white cars. Know it sounds wild, but its a thing up there

 

[Pazzy]

NATIVE new yorkers dont have an identity crisis

Depends on who we are talking about and I blame the natives for allowing the tourists or outsiders with no respect for other cultures to infiltrate to the point where they are telling the natives how to live. The natives are just staying silent or move out and these infiltrators don't even stay to see the change that they've done because they end up moving too.

You don't see tourist going down to other countries going off the resort telling the natives what they should do. They would get put in their place and sent packing.

 

[Sonic Boom of the South]

Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't the south's unified identification predicated on their cac rebellions?

Gtfoh


I swear y'all worse as honkys with the region racism

 

[Black Steph Curry]

Southern culture is definitely split up into sections.

The Carolinas, GA/FLA/Bama, Tex/LA/Miss (Gulf coast/3rd coast) and mid south- Tenn/Arkansas/Kentucky. They all the south but they all distinct of each other.

shyt u could really split tha culture up within states. I'm from Huntsville and its a world of difference between us and Mobile brehs. They call this region tha Tennessee valley so u know tha mid south influence is heavy.

 

[JamilALAmin]

nikka u cant be serious

The south and the idea of the south has been the most self defining region in the last 20 years

Yall have made a whole industry out of it

I didnt even know i was from the "north" or a guy that was from "up north" till i went to an hbcu in the south

Self defining? In the late 90's there was no Black media presence in the south. None. ZERO.

So if anything was placed on us, it more than likely was something that yall placed on us, not so much as something we came up with and marketed to the world. If Master P and JD was selling tapes out of their trunks to get on, what the fukk makes you think the south had enough of a voice to brand itself???? How the fukk you sound breh??

The south didn't have a voice back then, and anything culturally that came out pertained to Black people in the late 90's, it came out of NY, know seeing as how NYC is the media capitol of the US. This the same thing that white people do, makes shows and shyt about what they think Black people are really like, but in reality thats not whats going on.

And HBCU's down south not exaclty a good guage on southern culture, I grew up not too far from 3 myself, and their islands unto themselves. Lot of times their in poor areas and the students dont leave campus at all. Not to mention the fact that (going back to the poverty in the south) most southern brehs don't go to HBCU's like that. even the ones in the south are dominated by brehs from up north. My HS wasn't even a mile from the AUC, I only knew 1 breh who went to Morehouse and 2 chicks that went to Clark out of all the folks from round my way. My school had a day care with a 68% drop out rate, and if you was lucky enough to graduate, an expensive ass HBCU was a pipe dream most likely. If you was college bound it was Juco or a cheap directional state school. Can't speak for the whole south, but that's how it goes in GA with the colleges.

 

[K.O.N.Y]

Self defining? In the late 90's there was no Black media presence in the south. None. ZERO.

So if anything was placed on us, it more than likely was something that yall placed on us, not so much as something we came up with and marketed to the world. If Master P and JD was selling tapes out of their trunks to get on, what the fukk makes you think the south had enough of a voice to brand itself???? How the fukk you sound breh??

The south didn't have a voice back then, and anything culturally that came out pertained to Black people in the late 90's, it came out of NY, know seeing as how NYC is the media capitol of the US. This the same thing that white people do, makes shows and shyt about what they think Black people are really like, but in reality thats not whats going on.

And HBCU's down south not exaclty a good guage on southern culture, I grew up not too far from 3 myself, and their islands unto themselves. Lot of times their in poor areas and the students dont leave campus at all. Not to mention the fact that (going back to the poverty in the south) most southern brehs don't go to HBCU's like that. even the ones in the south are dominated by brehs from up north. My HS wasn't even a mile from the AUC, I only knew 1 breh who went to Morehouse and 2 chicks that went to Clark out of all the folks from round my way. My school had a day care with a 68% drop out rate, and if you was lucky enough to graduate, an expensive ass HBCU was a pipe dream most likely. If you was college bound it was Juco or a cheap directional state school. Can't speak for the whole south, but that's how it goes in GA with the colleges.

this couldn't be more off.

so black people from the south dont have a concept of being from the "south"

This is not even culturally accurate

The south has been selling the idea of the south through pop culture since 2005. Ive literally watch this shyt unfold in real time through my own eyes

 

[Sankofa Alwayz]

TX/LA/Miss- Gulf coast, heavy creole influence, jambalaya, gumbo, crawfish, Mardi Gras party anywhere at any time type of culture, Slabs, Vogues, Buicks, Grand Prixs, Yat accent in LA which means its a southern accent without a drawl, mix of yat and southern drawl in TX, Miss mostly drawl but still has some of rhythmic way of talking that Yat does. Black folks from that area tend to be very aggressive, in a up north type of way. If that makes sense. Especially LA and Miss, yeah Miss is mostly rural, but that shyt is like Terrordrome in the woods

GA/FLA/Bama- Heavy Geechie influence, geechie kinda like creole without the French and Spanish, Brunswick Stew, Fish Fry's and low country boils, tends to be more religious, not as heavy a party culture like the Mardi Gras demo, which in turn created the Juke Joint culture- little spot that had to be ducked off in the woods cuz you didn't want word to get out that you was turning up at night. Chevy Caprices, Impalas, Monte Carlos, big ass rims, dreads. As a whole more laid back, but, Low country Black folks in this region are more jealous and aggressive than up country/Piedmont brehs, but still not as jealous and aggressive as LA/Miss 3rd coast brehs. The accent gets less the further south and closer to the coast you go, Geechie accent is alot faster and almost sounds up north. SAV, Chucktown, North FLA..etc. Like if you put a ATL breh and a SAV breh side by side and had them speak, you would guess the SAV breh was from the bigger city. Cuz we sound waaaay countrier than they do.

Carolinas- Damn near Mid Atlantic, a lot more European influence with the food, BBQ, liverwurst, cheerwine soda, less of an accent in NC. Even more conservative turn up wise than GA/FLA/Bama, but not as or the same level of religious. Lot more up north/east coast influence. Ford Crown Vics and Caddys, dreads too but lot of braids also. shyt load of light skinned and mixed Black folks, especially in NC. SC tends to be more like GA and NC tends to be more like VA, but they are basically the same damn thing. I don't really think they distinguish from north and south like that. Its just the Carolinas to them.

Upper south-Tenn/Arkansas/KY- industrial midwest kinda vibe, coal mines and other forms of labor like that. West Tenn is Black as shyt, but its not as many brehs in this part of the south. Poorer soil, harder to grow crops so it wasn't as many slaves as further south. Mostly really poor too tho, Memphis, Little Rock, Clarksville, Louisville, all of them are pretty rough when it comes to the Black side of things. I'd say Memphis culture dominates this region, Mtown very much has a big footprint culturally. Not even sure what type of cars for them, Ive seen some of everything the couple times ive slid thru Memphis. They for sure have an affinity for white cars up there, like damn near how it be when you in the Caribbean. Came out this hood club up there and it seemed like half the lot was white cars. Know it sounds wild, but its a thing up there

That’s a pretty informative description breh. What about the cultural differences from city/metro to city/metro in the South? I ask this since people always say that there’s not much cultural variation between cities and metro areas down South compared to the East Coast, Midwest, and West Coast.

 

[JamilALAmin]

this couldn't be more off.

so black people from the south dont have a concept of being from the "south"

This is not even culturally accurate

The south has been selling the idea of the south through pop culture since 2005. Ive literally watch this shyt unfold in real time through my own eyes

You moving goal posts like fukk, at first you basically insinuated that black folks from the south all sharing the exact same identity and having each others back was the reason the south has done so well in hip hop, when nothing could be further from the truth. I just outlined the cultural differences and and a few of the different beefs. Now you trying to say that Black folks from the south are just simply aware of being from the south, when that’s not what you started on at all patna.


And you watched it unfold from where?? Source magazine? Your 1 week trip down south in the summer? So because some cac hip hop writer from suburban New York calls it the Dirty, that’s what brehs actually in the south is on? Nah breh. I watched it unfold with my own eyes too, cuz I’m from this bytch.

Just off this thread alone and the reasons you tried to draw together to back up your argument shows me you really don’t have a clue what you talking about. The south did what it did in music because we’re musically inclined as fukk down here. You acting like like we didn’t create Rock n Roll, Blues and Jazz down here. Like more brehs in the south don’t grow up in the church and by extension church choir, church band, and just flat out being musical and rhythmic at least once a week. Like a HS marching band competition doesn’t pack 60,000 into a football stadium easily on the regular. Being in the band at a hood school isn’t some band geek shyt, lot of brehs aspire to that down here. Pretty sure cats like Zaytoven came up in the percussion section in somebody marching band back in the day. And lastly as y’all NY nikkas say, we closer to the feeling down here. We all walk with our ancestors, no matter where you at. But down here we walking in their footsteps. Young breh with rap dreams, growing up in Riverdale ClayCo, makin beats in his mama house, on the exact same land the ancestors was singing Bring Sally Up, Bring Sally Down on 175 years ago.

 

[Indiglow Meta (R$G)]

How you gon say how or what southern nikkas do? Are you from the south? So how the fukk is what your perceive it to be valid? That sounds like your opinion moreso than facts breh

He's acting like half of jersey doesn't live in Raleigh, and NY isn't deep in VA...
nikkas turn into southerners and lose their accents, occasionally...because that's HOME.

 

[K.O.N.Y]

You moving goal posts like fukk, at first you basically insinuated that black folks from the south all sharing the exact same identity and having each others back was the reason the south has done so well in hip hop, when nothing could be further from the truth. I just outlined the cultural differences and and a few of the different beefs. Now you trying to say that Black folks from the south are just simply aware of being from the south, when that’s not what you started on at all patna.


And you watched it unfold from where?? Source magazine? Your 1 week trip down south in the summer? So because some cac hip hop writer from suburban New York calls it the Dirty, that’s what brehs actually in the south is on? Nah breh. I watched it unfold with my own eyes too, cuz I’m from this bytch.

Just off this thread alone and the reasons you tried to draw together to back up your argument shows me you really don’t have a clue what you talking about. The south did what it did in music because we’re musically inclined as fukk down here. You acting like like we didn’t create Rock n Roll, Blues and Jazz down here. Like more brehs in the south don’t grow up in the church and by extension church choir, church band, and just flat out being musical and rhythmic at least once a week. Like a HS marching band competition doesn’t pack 60,000 into a football stadium easily on the regular. Being in the band at a hood school isn’t some band geek shyt, lot of brehs aspire to that down here. Pretty sure cats like Zaytoven came up in the percussion section in somebody marching band back in the day. And lastly as y’all NY nikkas say, we closer to the feeling down here. We all walk with our ancestors, no matter where you at. But down here we walking in their footsteps. Young breh with rap dreams, growing up in Riverdale ClayCo, makin beats in his mama house, on the exact same land the ancestors was singing Bring Sally Up, Bring Sally Down on 175 years ago.

i literally never said this. And if i did i wouldnt be wrong

 

[K.O.N.Y]

. The south did what it did in music because we’re musically inclined as fukk down here. You acting like like we didn’t create Rock n Roll, Blues and Jazz down here. Like more brehs in the south don’t grow up in the church and by extension church choir, church band, and just flat out being musical and rhythmic at least once a week. .

I dont get it. Are you guys a shared culture or not.

People from nyc dont say or use "the north"

in "the north" we do this. in "the north" we do that

Which is exactly my point

Nobody is saying south carolina,alabama,georgia have the EXACT same culture

But you guys do have an overall shared southern culture. Thats not even an argument

 

[poppastoppa]

TX/LA/Miss- Gulf coast, heavy creole influence, jambalaya, gumbo, crawfish, Mardi Gras party anywhere at any time type of culture, Slabs, Vogues, Buicks, Grand Prixs, Yat accent in LA which means its a southern accent without a drawl, mix of yat and southern drawl in TX, Miss mostly drawl but still has some of rhythmic way of talking that Yat does. Black folks from that area tend to be very aggressive, in a up north type of way. If that makes sense. Especially LA and Miss, yeah Miss is mostly rural, but that shyt is like Terrordrome in the woods

GA/FLA/Bama- Heavy Geechie influence, geechie kinda like creole without the French and Spanish, Brunswick Stew, Fish Fry's and low country boils, tends to be more religious, not as heavy a party culture like the Mardi Gras demo, which in turn created the Juke Joint culture- little spot that had to be ducked off in the woods cuz you didn't want word to get out that you was turning up at night. Chevy Caprices, Impalas, Monte Carlos, big ass rims, dreads. As a whole more laid back, but, Low country Black folks in this region are more jealous and aggressive than up country/Piedmont brehs, but still not as jealous and aggressive as LA/Miss 3rd coast brehs. The accent gets less the further south and closer to the coast you go, Geechie accent is alot faster and almost sounds up north. SAV, Chucktown, North FLA..etc. Like if you put a ATL breh and a SAV breh side by side and had them speak, you would guess the SAV breh was from the bigger city. Cuz we sound waaaay countrier than they do.

Carolinas- Damn near Mid Atlantic, a lot more European influence with the food, BBQ, liverwurst, cheerwine soda, less of an accent in NC. Even more conservative turn up wise than GA/FLA/Bama, but not as or the same level of religious. Lot more up north/east coast influence. Ford Crown Vics and Caddys, dreads too but lot of braids also. shyt load of light skinned and mixed Black folks, especially in NC. SC tends to be more like GA and NC tends to be more like VA, but they are basically the same damn thing. I don't really think they distinguish from north and south like that. Its just the Carolinas to them.

Upper south-Tenn/Arkansas/KY- industrial midwest kinda vibe, coal mines and other forms of labor like that. West Tenn is Black as shyt, but its not as many brehs in this part of the south. Poorer soil, harder to grow crops so it wasn't as many slaves as further south. Mostly really poor too tho, Memphis, Little Rock, Clarksville, Louisville, all of them are pretty rough when it comes to the Black side of things. I'd say Memphis culture dominates this region, Mtown very much has a big footprint culturally. Not even sure what type of cars for them, Ive seen some of everything the couple times ive slid thru Memphis. They for sure have an affinity for white cars up there, like damn near how it be when you in the Caribbean. Came out this hood club up there and it seemed like half the lot was white cars. Know it sounds wild, but its a thing up there

I would say SC more geechie influence than Ga and Fla

 

[Will Ross]

I dont get it. Are you guys a shared culture or not.

People from nyc dont say or use "the north"

in "the north" we do this. in "the north" we do that

Which is exactly my point

Nobody is saying south carolina,alabama,georgia have the EXACT same culture

But you guys do have an overall shared southern culture. Thats not even an argument

When areas don't have a voice they tend to all group together as one to people on the outside. But when at home that does not go down.

 

[K.O.N.Y]

When areas don't have a voice they tend to all group together as one to people on the outside. But when at home that does not go down.

nyc does this as a city

not through the "the north"

like the south tends to do

 

[How Sway?]

TX/LA/Miss- Gulf coast, heavy creole influence, jambalaya, gumbo, crawfish, Mardi Gras party anywhere at any time type of culture, Slabs, Vogues, Buicks, Grand Prixs, Yat accent in LA which means its a southern accent without a drawl, mix of yat and southern drawl in TX, Miss mostly drawl but still has some of rhythmic way of talking that Yat does. Black folks from that area tend to be very aggressive, in a up north type of way. If that makes sense. Especially LA and Miss, yeah Miss is mostly rural, but that shyt is like Terrordrome in the woods

GA/FLA/Bama- Heavy Geechie influence, geechie kinda like creole without the French and Spanish, Brunswick Stew, Fish Fry's and low country boils, tends to be more religious, not as heavy a party culture like the Mardi Gras demo, which in turn created the Juke Joint culture- little spot that had to be ducked off in the woods cuz you didn't want word to get out that you was turning up at night. Chevy Caprices, Impalas, Monte Carlos, big ass rims, dreads. As a whole more laid back, but, Low country Black folks in this region are more jealous and aggressive than up country/Piedmont brehs, but still not as jealous and aggressive as LA/Miss 3rd coast brehs. The accent gets less the further south and closer to the coast you go, Geechie accent is alot faster and almost sounds up north. SAV, Chucktown, North FLA..etc. Like if you put a ATL breh and a SAV breh side by side and had them speak, you would guess the SAV breh was from the bigger city. Cuz we sound waaaay countrier than they do.

Carolinas- Damn near Mid Atlantic, a lot more European influence with the food, BBQ, liverwurst, cheerwine soda, less of an accent in NC. Even more conservative turn up wise than GA/FLA/Bama, but not as or the same level of religious. Lot more up north/east coast influence. Ford Crown Vics and Caddys, dreads too but lot of braids also. shyt load of light skinned and mixed Black folks, especially in NC. SC tends to be more like GA and NC tends to be more like VA, but they are basically the same damn thing. I don't really think they distinguish from north and south like that. Its just the Carolinas to them.

Upper south-Tenn/Arkansas/KY- industrial midwest kinda vibe, coal mines and other forms of labor like that. West Tenn is Black as shyt, but its not as many brehs in this part of the south. Poorer soil, harder to grow crops so it wasn't as many slaves as further south. Mostly really poor too tho, Memphis, Little Rock, Clarksville, Louisville, all of them are pretty rough when it comes to the Black side of things. I'd say Memphis culture dominates this region, Mtown very much has a big footprint culturally. Not even sure what type of cars for them, Ive seen some of everything the couple times ive slid thru Memphis. They for sure have an affinity for white cars up there, like damn near how it be when you in the Caribbean. Came out this hood club up there and it seemed like half the lot was white cars. Know it sounds wild, but its a thing up there

Hell nah. SC is like another world. SC is more like GA and AL.

In fact SC probably has more gulla/geechie representation than both GA and AL.

Everything else is spot on.