@OffHalsted
The 100s LochNess
Too late
ship already sailed..
2010s was about Blackness but 2020s is about tribes.....
ship already sailed..2010s was about Blackness but 2020s is about tribes.....
NEWSFLASH: The “ADOS” Movement is Not An Excuse for You to Be a FKN Idiot About Race and Culture
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I Really Mean It
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The only people I see beating AADOS into the ground are those critics from the non-AADOS community.
HellRell804
Banned
Is that *gasp* Respectability politics?
I actually agree with everything you said just to he clear
Too late
2010s was about Blackness but 2020s is about tribes.....
The tribe concept will never apply in america.
1.we are in proximity of non blacks.
2. People dont even know or understand the concepts of tribes and just say crap for the hell of it.
Too late
2010s was about Blackness but 2020s is about tribes.....
2010s was all about blackness? The last time black was in was the 70s
Most nikkas have and display anti black thoughts and behaviors
No I’m not saying “pull up your pantsing white supremacy disappears” I’m simply saying that a lot of people who came here post civil rights have shifted on us and we have let them get away with it so why would they respect us? People will never respect you if you don’t even respect yourself.
Kenny West
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This is mature. And if the maturity can be maintained it can become a geniune form of intersectionalism
As you say in the OP black folks moving for policies that help them and their self intrests is the wave. And our biggest self intrests is to eliminate the discriminatory practices in this country.
That is an agenda that is general enough and wide enough that it covers the intrests of multiple minorities without having to force a unity narrative.
You dont have to like latinos asians africans etc, and they dont have to like us. But in spite of that there should be a shared intrest in removing the ability to disenfranchise non whites at will.
The problem is folks dont want to demand feasible tangibles or want to pigeonhole the people they support onto a platform that will never win them an election aka "do stuff for aa's only! fukk the women, gays, latinos asians africans carribeans immigrants and cacs. Us and us only. Dont worry they'll still vote you!"
As you say in the OP black folks moving for policies that help them and their self intrests is the wave. And our biggest self intrests is to eliminate the discriminatory practices in this country.
That is an agenda that is general enough and wide enough that it covers the intrests of multiple minorities without having to force a unity narrative.
You dont have to like latinos asians africans etc, and they dont have to like us. But in spite of that there should be a shared intrest in removing the ability to disenfranchise non whites at will.
The problem is folks dont want to demand feasible tangibles or want to pigeonhole the people they support onto a platform that will never win them an election aka "do stuff for aa's only! fukk the women, gays, latinos asians africans carribeans immigrants and cacs. Us and us only. Dont worry they'll still vote you!"
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HellRell804
Banned
But anytime other people have said similar things, me included, its
gtfoh with your Respectability politics, but now that American blacks are starting to splinter off this is the rhetoric being used. I think the timing is weird but most of all it makes me think that it was a position that was true and right all along just not politically useful until now.But I'm sleep tho
2010s was all about blackness? The last time black was in was the 70s
Most nikkas have and display anti black thoughts and behaviors
Lol exactly. Mofos just be talking for the hell of it. I dont know what kinda bizzaro world people living in where there are black people who dont know they are black.
At most one can argue there has always been debate about what the solution is for black people in America paired in with c00ns who think the issue is “black people need to pull tjemselves up by the boot straps”.
The issue is people now feel some kinda way because its a Nigerian saying the same dumb ish their c00n ass grandparent was probably saying in 1963 hating on MLK or Malcolm x.
Let coli tell it folks whole family was on the front lines with Malcolm, praying 5 times a day, and getting drug dealers off the street.
These so called militants got goofy ass parents with white jesus on the wall at home who love the clinton family. Literally doing the exact same thing immigrant c00ns are doing.
People dont realize black is black because they arent around black people in real life.
O³ (O cubed)
No more PAWGs, PLEASE??!!!??
How about DOS from Louisiana? Whom do they get reparations from? The US or France since the French sold the state to pay for the war against the UK after the loss of Haiti.Now you being dumb too
They would get reparations from England, Spain , and France
Not the USA because they aren't descendants of slaves in this country
United States since they assumed control in 1803
Being blown way out proportion, other than Tariq's "aids" comments or a few other comments, there's nothing there.
By all means, show me a group of Americans that are more inclusive than black Americans? I'll wait? Please, immigrants, tell me which community is going to really support you.
This is just non-ados not being able to take any level of criticism towards any of "their own" similar to the way we critique each other in the black community.
Tariq, for example, can indiscriminately call black women bedwenches or black men c00ns, but let him specify a group of Africans or Caribbeans wenches or c00ns and they see it as an attack against "all of them", or their culture at large. It doesn't matter how many times we, or Tariq says "not all", or how many times Yvette says allyship is possible, some are beyond sensitive anytime their group is even mentioned in a negative light. But let it be something positive about ados and it's like "Why are you leaving us out?".
When different black American (ados) camps or political factions go after each other, where's all this concern over being divisive? It would be different if Yvette or Tariq only went after immigrants, but they go after every damnbody, especially other black Americans. Nobodies exempt from getting that work.
By all means, show me a group of Americans that are more inclusive than black Americans? I'll wait? Please, immigrants, tell me which community is going to really support you.
This is just non-ados not being able to take any level of criticism towards any of "their own" similar to the way we critique each other in the black community.
Tariq, for example, can indiscriminately call black women bedwenches or black men c00ns, but let him specify a group of Africans or Caribbeans wenches or c00ns and they see it as an attack against "all of them", or their culture at large. It doesn't matter how many times we, or Tariq says "not all", or how many times Yvette says allyship is possible, some are beyond sensitive anytime their group is even mentioned in a negative light. But let it be something positive about ados and it's like "Why are you leaving us out?".
When different black American (ados) camps or political factions go after each other, where's all this concern over being divisive? It would be different if Yvette or Tariq only went after immigrants, but they go after every damnbody, especially other black Americans. Nobodies exempt from getting that work.
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Citi Trends
aka milobased
Except those groups aren’t asking for shared interest tangibles for everyone and us.
And no ADOS said only we should get something. We said we need something specifically for us as we have been specifically disenfranchised.
As for talking shyt about other races. Well I guess that’s your commendable opinion, but if they’re horrible people I’m gonna say they’re horrible people. I can not spend with them and tell the truth
I agree with all of this but I think the last paragraph kind of belittles the viewpoint of the more rational and intelligent. The argument is not “do stuff for us only” it’s “do something for just us”. Don’t lump us up in the “people of color” category that includes immigrants or the “minority” category that includes white women and gays...do something for “African Americans” exclusively as you have done for LGBTWTFBBQ and Jews. You can be their representative but when we ask you to be ours the narrative changes to “I represent everyone”.
But anytime other people have said similar things, me included, its
But I'm sleep tho
Please don’t bring your baggage into this discussion because it doesn’t apply. There’s a difference between saying “White people would treat you better if you dressed like them and spoke Standard American English” and “when people took you for granted you didn’t stand up for yourself and so they continue to take you for granted to this very day”. Respectability politics assumes that the mistreatment is due to the behaviors of the mistreated. I’m not specifying the cause of the mistreatment I’m simply saying that when it happened we did not respond against...we “let it slide” so it persisted. I’m not blaming Black American DOS for the treatment they receive...I’m blaming them for doing nothing about it.
I feel the cut off for reparations should be Black Americans who were here prior to the Civil Rights Act. Obviously there will be some Black immigrants that slip through the cracks but it is what it is.