First off this isn't a pity party, it's a mutual discussion between adults/adolescents; however, judging by your constant ad hominem, childish juvenile affront and wild broad unsupported generalization and bias, you're obviously not mature enough to even engage in a casual discussion such as this one.
Funny you didn't respond to me directly but I will address this anyway because of course all you're doing is restating what you've already stated previously, but has already been confirmed as false. It's not that males can't accept hearing the truth about themselves. It's that males, more times than none, KNOW who they are and what they're perceived by women and society to be and are not willing to conform.
This is the exact opposite of what's actually going on. Self identifying "nice guys"/"good gentlemen" are doing just that- conforming. They are just conforming to the wrong ideals.
And, I'm glad I'm touching on this because this is something other people have posted up here earlier but is also FALSE. If men were only playing the "nice guy" simply to get laid, then why do they still continue to "act" even though it's not working? Fact of the matter is, they are not acting.
No
The reason dudes play the "nice guy"
is because they don't know any other way to interact with women. They straddle the line of being just aggressive/persistent enough to stay within her sphere of attention, but nowhere near aggressive enough to make a move
and take a chance at facing rejection, because they treat every woman they interact with like the last one that will ever give them a chance.
The reason why they vent and detail their experiences is because they aren't blind to what's going on and aren't going to pretend to be blind simply to make women feel more conferrable about something that's true.
No
They vent their experiences because they are willfully blind to what's going on.
The only person that can put someone in the friend zone is one's self.... self-identifying nice guys blame women and "society" for the choices they make.
Again, A woman has the right to chose who she wants as long as the man wants her as well; however, when she or any woman responds to accusations and criticism regarding her choices made by her male counterpart, and the accusations made are all absolutely true and she's responding to them in a way that's condescending and deflective, then yes it is a cop out.
Again more "nice guy" bullshyt. Trademark nice guy bullshyt. You can't win over her affections so you try to rationalize your way into the p*ssy through shame. "Why do you date all these a$$holes? You should date a good gentleman (like me!!!
)" Meanwhile those "a$$holes" are nothing more than guys who were willing to make the move and take the chance the "good gentleman" wasn't.
It really seems as though you feel that men should work on them selves in an attempt to "get p*ssy" is that what you've done personally? Then tell me who's more of a "p*ssy whipped Simp" the guy who refuses to conform or lower himself to obtain sex from a woman who engages in sexual intercourse with his underling? Or the guy who's only acting like a jerk to "score some p*ssy"?
No, I think men should stop "beating around the bush" and just be upfront with women. It would save a lot headaches and bodybuilding.com/misc threads. You find a woman attractive, you let her know in clear language. If she's feeling you, great. If she's not,
KEEP IT MOVING. ACCEPT THE REJECTION AND MOVE ON WITH YOUR LIFE. This idea you seem to be pushing that women make the "wrong" choices with men is silly... if all a woman dates is "a$$holes" why would you want to date that woman? Just move on to another one. I have seen manifestos like yours... it all revolves around an inability to accept rejection and move on. If
ONE woman isn't feeling you, who cares? There are
3 BILLON OTHER ONES you can take a chance with. With those kinds of options why waste time putting yourself in the friend zone and playing the passive aggressive guaranteed for failure "nice guy"?
And there is a big difference between being a "nice guy" and being an actual nice guy. A "nice guy" is a chronic passive aggressor who absolutely refuses to take any responsibility for the outcomes of his choices in life. You exemplify this. You are INCENSED at the idea of rethinking how you deal with women, even though it's clearly not working. A true nice guy is respectful but direct... and in doing so wastes no time, sees what works and what doesn't, and has more success with women. A true nice guy doesn't wear his "niceness" on his sleeve like some kind of VIP pass to the p*ssy because he knows it doesn't work that way. He is nice to everybody because it's the right thing to do.
So no Im not saying men should work on themselves. As fake nice guys love to point out "a$$holes" get plenty of women. Only thing they are doing differently is approaching directly and walking away if shyt doesn't go their way. Its not rocket science, cavemen realized this.
by women because he was too boring or too nice.
for him in a heartbeat but he just keeps catching L's.... He's not the only guy I've seen this happen too either..... This isn't just some one time thing. 
Think what you want it matters not but you ain't getting no p*ssy talking the way you talk. Oh yeah I can't prove that but fukk it so what what you going to do "said in my dope boy voice" As a matter of fact I can't prove shyt I post (make you feel better? ) but I bet you can since its not hard to prove you are a nice guy fakkit caping for grown men not getting p*ssy. Good luck with that and thanks for conversing with somebody with my limited everything. Good to see people spend time with the less fortunate in the world. FOH and learn there's more than one way to spell certain words too stupid ass.
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