"nice guys aren't really nice" is a Cop out women use

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

If they complain they are not true nice, that is true. That is entitlement.

I never said anything about complaining but my initial post was definitely a superficial take on the concept which you've helped me expand on.

There are definitely women who go after dumbasses than those who are nice with potential, and at this stage of my maturity I just see it as a bullet dodged and I move on without harboring any resentment. That's not entitlement, that's just moving on. A fake nice guy like Elliot Rodgers would probably complain about it and tell them he deserves her because he's been nice to her. A man who knows he's not entitled anything would shrug his shoulders and walk away knowing that she probably wasn't for him anyway.

Yea, I agree with you 100%. Nice guys and jumpoffs have no concept of the value of time. Someone who isn't cooperating or meeting your demands just saved you time you could spend searching for/being with someone who does. Pursue and filter.

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

This is all true. However, that doesn't change the fact that the bullshyt reasoning that the company uses to defend their practices is indeed bullshyt. If that company turned around and said "these conscientious and diligent workers aren't really conscientious and diligent they are just acting like that in hopes of getting paid" does that make the dynamic of what is going on any different? Sure the workers are screwing themselves but that doesn't preclude the company from their responsibility as well.

Sure, the company is wrong, and should be called out as such. But ultimately it's clear they dont give a fukk. Whether the goal is to protect one's self interests or to end this kind of behavior, the fastest way to get people/entities to stop taking advantage of you is to not let them. Not sitting around commiserating with other suckers. If you want a sexual relationship, and a woman is only making herself available platonically, theres no reason for you to be dealing with her at all. I have zero simpathy for dudes who are in the friend zone... nobody put them there but themselves.

 

[philmonroe]

Are these same guys turning around and complaining about being put in the friendzone? I am generalizing to the majority of guys. A small minority of guys get the p*ssy and do the leading on. Then again another poster (@PartyHeart) tells me that men don't need to lie because women are all good with casual sex because it's easier and are more cautious about who they will mess with long term because it's harder.

I don't know I'd like to say no though because they usually are getting girls. I'm just saying some dudes lead girls on at times for what they want too that's all. I don't think dudes need to lie because you'll find a chick that's down for what your into. I also don't think chicks need to lie either about being cool with being fukk buddies and as soon as you start to fukk consistently its where is this going.? They are both in the wrong IMO and a lot of cats of both genders do it. I think we can agree on that?

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

I don't know I'd like to say no though because they usually are getting girls. I'm just saying some dudes lead girls on at times for what they want too that's all. I don't think dudes need to lie because you'll find a chick that's down for what your into. I also don't think chicks need to lie either about being cool with being fukk buddies and as soon as you start to fukk consistently its where is this going.? They are both in the wrong IMO and a lot of cats of both genders do it. I think we can agree on that?

Yea dudes def play the boyfriend role just to get ass. @malcolmxxx_45 made a joke thread about that that did numbers. People on both sides are selling dreams and people on both sides pretend like it's only the other side that does wrong. shyt's corny. Would be a lot better if everyone was just honest.

 

[FTBS]

Sure, the company is wrong, and should be called out as such. But ultimately it's clear they dont give a fukk. Whether the goal is to protect one's self interests or to end this kind of behavior, the fastest way to get people/entities to stop taking advantage of you is to not let them. Not sitting around commiserating with other suckers. If you want a sexual relationship, and a woman is only making herself available platonically, theres no reason for you to be dealing with her at all. I have zero simpathy for dudes who are in the friend zone... nobody put them there but themselves.

That's all I'm saying and the basis of the thread. You will never see me saying that grown ass people aren't responsible for themselves. I'm just not willing to let anyone off the hook just to keep piling responsibility onto someone else.

I don't know I'd like to say no though because they usually are getting girls. I'm just saying some dudes lead girls on at times for what they want too that's all. I don't think dudes need to lie because you'll find a chick that's down for what your into. I also don't think chicks need to lie either about being cool with being fukk buddies and as soon as you start to fukk consistently its where is this going.? They are both in the wrong IMO and a lot of cats of both genders do it. I think we can agree on that?

Indeed. It's funny because I actually ride for chicks in the dating game. Some of the stuff I say may come of as an attack, when really I want them to have better and to do what it takes to have better rather than constantly deluding themselves into thinking that they are benefiting from this current fukked up paradigm.

 

[Malcolmxxx_23]

Yea dudes def play the boyfriend role just to get ass. @malcolmxxx_45 made a joke thread about that that did numbers. People on both sides are selling dreams and people on both sides pretend like it's only the other side that does wrong. shyt's corny. Would be a lot better if everyone was just honest.

I lie to almost every girl
and thats how I get In her pants

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

That's all I'm saying and the basis of the thread. You will never see me saying that grown ass people aren't responsible for themselves. I'm just not willing to let anyone off the hook just to keep piling responsibility onto someone else.

It is a person's responsibility to look out for his or her own self interests though. I take that back. There is no value in calling them out. The best way to call them out is to not let them take advantage of you. All that matters to companies and people like that is the power and ability to make others bend to their will. Emotional outbursts only further empower them.

 

[FTBS]

It is a person's responsibility to look out for his or her own self interests though. What value is there in calling these companies out? They don't care. Same way a woman who knows she is just stringing you along doesn't care. But if all dudes in the friend zone all of a sudden stopped hanging out with these women, that would do way more than some 'waiting to exhale' goofball call out. Thats some power simp shyt. U show that u are hurt to someone who doesnt give a shyt about u, that only further empowers them. Best course of action is a clean break with no drama and success in future endeavors. U wasting time trying to "make sure".

Sure, the company is wrong, and should be called out as such. But ultimately it's clear they dont give a fukk. Whether the goal is to protect one's self interests or to end this kind of behavior, the fastest way to get people/entities to stop taking advantage of you is to not let them. Not sitting around commiserating with other suckers. If you want a sexual relationship, and a woman is only making herself available platonically, theres no reason for you to be dealing with her at all. I have zero simpathy for dudes who are in the friend zone... nobody put them there but themselves.

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

Yea there is no value in calling them out. I was wrong to say that. Attack their power directly with minimum effort... dont let a woman rob u of ur time and attention for the HOPE of a sexual relationship. Just walk away.

 

[FTBS]

Yea there is no value in calling them out. I was wrong to say that. Attack their power directly with minimum effort... dont let a woman rob u of ur time and attention for the HOPE of a sexual relationship. Just walk away.

Daps for keeping it 100%. To your point, its not robbery if you are freely giving it away.

 

[Shadow]

I'm a nice dude.

What's wrong with people recognizing what they are? I'm also black and straight.

 

[12345A]

I'm a nice dude.

What's wrong with people recognizing what they are? I'm also black and straight.

You're not a nice dude if you say you're nice, duuuuh. You're a piece of shyt like everybody else.

 

[Neil Tyson]

I'm a nice dude.

What's wrong with people recognizing what they are? I'm also black and straight.

If most people you come in contact with say you're nice, maybe you are. Just let others be the judge of that, only they know how you come off.

 

[12345A]

If most people you come in contact with say you're nice, maybe you are. Just let others be the judge of that, only they know how you come off.

It doesn't matter how people perceive you because a lot of people are too quick to judge; therefore, their perceptions can be completely inaccurate.

 

[Shadow]

You're not a nice dude if you say you're nice, duuuuh. You're a piece of shyt like everybody else.

lol makes no sense at all.