"nice guys aren't really nice" is a Cop out women use

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That's the thing. Women think if you want sex than your ulterior motives aren't really "nice".

Still confident nice guys >>>>>>>>bad boys

I agree. Women will always love confidence. Period. And I have that in spades.

I've learned over the my lifespan to be nice, cordial, polite, confident, funny and calm but when I get a gauge on someones character and I eventually learn she aint about shyt... welp, I can become enough of an a$$hole to where she'll know I've got the drop on her. It's all about balance.
 
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Nah. Not always. Sometimes nice guys aren't nice. I got two homeboys who always swear they can simp their way into p*ssy. Then they come out looking extra creep when they show out acting like ol girl owes them sex. I'd rather be upfront with my intentions and get a yes/no than try to be a "nice guy" and look like a bigger fool if home girl shuts that shyt down. :yeshrug:

I agree with everything else you said though.
He's talking about legit nice guys. Your friends are pretending to be nice. That's the difference!
 

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Too bad, you can't read a good mans mind because not all men are looking for just sex. The majority of GOOD men who want to pursue a relationship with a woman are looking for a long term relationship.

Back to the TOPIC of the discussion, yes it is a COP OUT because although you can't read a good mans mind, I'm sure most of you women know damn well he's just not looking simply for sex , but rather a committed relationship and with every committed relationship comes what? SEX. Yeah and having a man want to have sex with you WHILE BEING COMMITTED TO YOU is a huge difference between some loser fukking you every other day, when he's not some where fukking his side piece or having some loser basically play you by fukking you once then tossing you aside along with the used condom. Which leads me to the point. Before you all continue to make hasty judgments about these "nice guys" as you put it, you'd be wise in understanding how this entire Nice Guy Complaining situation came about in the first place. Do you honestly think a bunch of guys just decided to get online and start ranting about how no woman wants them? If you think that you're just short sighted and probably taking a biased stance on this situation. This shyt all started in retaliation to women CONSTANTLY complaining about being treated like shyt. They'd frequently rant and throw out dialogue I'm sure you're all familiar with, things like "where are all the good men at?" "Why do men treat us like shyt?" "What happened to chivilery?" "All men are dogs!" After this uproar of bull shyt, it didn't take long for men along with OTHER WOMEN(Usually older more mature and unbiased) to reply to these accusations of there being no good men with logic and reason "It's not that there are no good men those are the men you chose." Which is absolutely true. Because the truth is there are GOOD, CONFIDENT, MEN who are NOT looking for a one night stand and who DO want a committed relationship. There have been sooo many generalizations and biased assumptions that have been basically pulled out of the asses of people who sit on the other side of the fence in this discussion. 1) "All nice guys are timid passive aggressive and do not know how to interact with a woman." FALSE. If you can provide any evidence to support your claims then please do so, but if not it's just a ridiculous broad speculation about an entire demographic of men, because lets be honest here, there are probably millions these "nice guys" out there, how many can you actually account for and how many have you come across? If you're just going off of the ones you see on the internet, sucks to have to burst your bubble, but you can't decipher any sexual motives though their rants. Went they post things like "women say guys treat them bad and only want sex but only date jerks" what is illogical about that statement? Furthermore what makes you think that his soul reason for pursuing any woman is just for sex? It's nothing but paranoia and speculation. But speculation based off of what? NOTHING, unless you're a guy and your mindset is "Me and my ass hole friends only want sex so every other man must have the same motives regardless of if he's good man or an ass hole" then that just means you're projecting your personality off on others making you some what of a narcissist. Women only have a problem accepting this because they know damn well they're choosing the guy who's more likely to cheat or do whatever over the guy who's not and it used to be a TREND for women to come online and vent about how their men treat them badly, UNTIL men started replying with, well you chose these types of guys. Today in 2015 you rarely see women come online and call men dogs. Now they admit to liking guys who aren't any good and claim that the reason they don't like good men is because they're timid, or ugly or whatever else(And trust me depending on what forum you're on each reason is different) when the claims they make about these good men aren't true. There are plenty of self confident good looking educated men, but are still either over looked for a loser or dumped for one. It's an excitement factor for most women, I get that. But the problem lies when they vent then people tell them the truth and they try pointing the finger back at men by using that same dumb ass worn out line "nice guys aren't really nice" as a fukking cop out. Not only is it badly delivered the statement itself is illogical, the reasoning and backing is biased and flawed and it's just straight out bull shyt.
 
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Damn western society care too much about what women/girls think or want.

Its thug life baby, we don't cater to these hoes. :pachaha::whew::noah::ufdup:

I seen "nice" brehs turn to illegal activity to get hoes :francis:
 

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I seen "nice" brehs turn to illegal activity to get hoes :francis:
They still miss the point

U don't have to change who u are to get ass

If u do u lost

Women see through that. I bet they didn't get ass once they turned dope boy

Plus why would a dude want to fukk with a chick who likes dopeboys anyway. Lol those dudes are idiots
 

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They still miss the point

U don't have to change who u are to get ass

If u do u lost

I don't agree with changing who you sre, but there is incentive outside of financial for some lost brehs to do dirt. p*ssy is one of the main motivators of it. I have yet to see a criminal not have a few broads sweating him.
 

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I never said that :beli:

My point isn't even hard to understand and a couple of other posters have understood it and echoed similarly in their posts. But whatever, you guys can continue to believe all/most women just want men who treat them horribly and the only reason "nice guys" can't get relationships is because they're just too nice. I can't force anyone to not believe nonsense just so that they never have to self examine. I can't force anyone to not believe nonsense so they don't feel bad about the poor way they treat the opposite sex.


So you didn't say that a casual encounter was easier than a relationship? This wasn't your main point of contention? :comeon:

Like I already said, there's a lot more factors and parameters that have to be met for you to get into a relationship with someone than there is for you to have casual sex with them.

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Simply put, while a guy might just need a girl to be open to sex and attractive (and not even that in some cases) for something casual, and a woman might equally just need a guy to be open to sex and attractive for something casual, the requirements aren't going to be so simple for either of them to actually want to be in a relationship with each other. Not only are the requirements going to be more, but the requirements will have to intersect with the two people over an extended period for the relationship to be maintained. Which at the end of the day makes a relationship much harder to get and maintain than a casual sex romp, which is why his and your comparisons are not and will not be apples to apples.

Why would a guy need to lie about something long term when there are actually fewer requirements for a casual fling?

I understand your point. I disagree with it based upon what actually happens in real life. I believe most guys are shytty and most women make horrible choices by rewarding said shyttiness. And then compound that by spinning and deflecting rather than being receptive to knowledge that guys that have been there and done that try to provide.
 

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umm...lol.....let me make my posts more clearer...

i'm waiting until marriage to engage in intercourse


that's just what i want with a man...that is what's real to me...true love is what's real to me..

Believe it or not there are men who are down for this too. Not a lot, but there are some. Even a man who is willing to wait until marriage still eventually wants p*ssy :pachaha:.
 

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I don't agree with changing who you sre, but there is incentive outside of financial for some lost brehs to do dirt. p*ssy is one of the main motivators of it. I have yet to see a criminal not have a few broads sweating him.
Most criminals are not caking like that, and by extension don't have broads sweating them. Average dopeboy makes less than minimum wage in the trap. These nikkas ain't balling,they dusty and broke.

Again if p*ssy is your main motivator for anything you are lame. It's a consequence of success, not success itself
 

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no I didn't know sorry just joined Saturday, I didn't play a victim, but i guess it's hard to read sarcasm through type

I would never cry over anything you could ever type to me, you are words typed on a forum, feel better?
Yep you did play victim and at least turn snitch ass nikka so that was worth it. I don't care what you do but would hope you wouldn't cry over something I typed. I understand sarcasm well just don't like snitching ass people looking for sympathy like you got from this bytch ass dude below.

guys who thumb down/neg rep etc usually have feminine qualities
Would sound better if your shyt wasn't blown to kingdom come and no need to be a dikkrider cause she a chick "nice" guy. That's that p*ssy behavior that have y'all lacking with women in the first place. She can defend herself.

I seen "nice" brehs turn to illegal activity to get hoes :francis:
So why should we care about insecure, failure genetics ass dudes. If that's the reason they doing it they sound stupid and you co signing it shows me you have to be one of these no,getting girls nikkas. Can't believe somebody would even use that as some type of rationale. Ole if he don't get p*ssy he might turn to the trap ass nikkas smfh. You should be ashamed of yourself and @GinaThatAintNoDamnPuppy! Is right its the consequences of success not success itself.
 

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Yep you did play victim and at least turn snitch ass nikka so that was worth it. I don't care what you do but would hope you wouldn't cry over something I typed. I understand sarcasm well just don't like snitching ass people looking for sympathy like you got from this bytch ass dude below.

Would sound better if your shyt wasn't blown to kingdom come and no need to be a dikkrider cause she a chick "nice" guy. That's that p*ssy behavior that have y'all lacking with women in the first place. She can defend herself.

So why should we care about insecure, failure genetics ass dudes. If that's the reason they doing it they sound stupid and you co signing it shows me you have to be one of these no,getting girls nikkas. Can't believe somebody would even use that as some type of rationale. Ole if he don't get p*ssy he might turn to the trap ass nikkas smfh. You should be ashamed of yourself and @GinaThatAintNoDamnPuppy! Is right its the consequences of success not success itself.

:dahell: I never agreed to that shyt. Turning to crime to get attention from hoes is the definition of stupidity.
 
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Yep you did play victim and at least turn snitch ass nikka so that was worth it. I don't care what you do but would hope you wouldn't cry over something I typed. I understand sarcasm well just don't like snitching ass people looking for sympathy like you got from this bytch ass dude below.

Would sound better if your shyt wasn't blown to kingdom come and no need to be a dikkrider cause she a chick "nice" guy. That's that p*ssy behavior that have y'all lacking with women in the first place. She can defend herself.

So why should we care about insecure, failure genetics ass dudes. If that's the reason they doing it they sound stupid and you co signing it shows me you have to be one of these no,getting girls nikkas. Can't believe somebody would even use that as some type of rationale. Ole if he don't get p*ssy he might turn to the trap ass nikkas smfh. You should be ashamed of yourself and @GinaThatAintNoDamnPuppy! Is right its the consequences of success not success itself.

lol i never have lacked with women
and never will

i created this thread to do numbers which it did lol

and when a grown man negs sum1 or thumbs down someone on a site you have feminine energy in you
 
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