Nintendo aiming to be 2nd place

[Lord_Chief_Rocka]

So tomorrow the Switch gets a spec bump which causes all third parties to go full in. You forgo The Last of Us 2 and all other of their games in favor of just owning a Nintendo console only?

The way I see this is if you only buy a single console and this is really your hobby you're missing out an a decent chunk of good and great games.

Yes Bruh I would. I'm not a hardcore gamer though

 

[Deltron]

Why would anyone just want to be number 2 tho!?? sounds like a bunch of underachievers...

Check your own videos, you'll always be number two

 

[Lord_Chief_Rocka]

Why would anyone just want to be number 2 tho!?? sounds like a bunch of underachievers...

shyt is weird bruh for real

 

[winb83]

Why would anyone just want to be number 2 tho!?? sounds like a bunch of underachievers...

They don't want to be #2. They want to appeal to a much wider audience than the traditional gamer. They want people who play Clash of Clans on iPad to buy their products too.

 

[daze23]

that's not true at all. There's no guarantee the 3rd parties would've flocked to them. GCN/N64 were pretty much "standard" consoles, and third parties really didn't do shyt for them. @Prince Luchini's right that 3rd parties still feel some type of way because of the NES/SNES, and to a lesser extent N64 era.

the N64 cartridges could only hold 64 MB, while a (PS) cd could hold 700 MB. that's a big discrepancy for any multiplatform game

 

[Deltron]

yeah I know what you mean, but other than format differences, both GCN/N64 weren't plagued with gimmicks like the Wii/U were...and could've probably gotten more ports if third parties really wanted to fukk with Nintendo like that

 

[Stir Fry]

This is why I don't game on consoles lmao talking bout gens and shyt. bytches this ain't Pokemon.

fyi: Almost planned on getting a Nintendo shytch but then I heard bout the paid online fukk I look like spending money to use my internet a already pay for

I'm going to pick one up strictly for local-play, since MS and Sony have pretty much abandoned party games from their line ups. It will be nice to have a system where I can actually play games at home with my family.

 

[yeyeye]

The NBA does but you point still remains

what do you mean by this bro

 

[NOYEMI.M2]

Microsoft has said they plan to continue using this architecture indefinitely so from an architecture standpoint there aren't ever plans to abandon it. I'm still saying that given the performance difference that it's their new generation console so it's a 9th generation. In terms of TFLOPS the Scorpio is 4.6x as many TFLOPS as an Xbox One vs 2.6 times for the PS4 to Pro.

The Xbox Scorpio has an objective to actually being able to run current gen games 4K games at 30FPS or so. The Xbox One can barely manage 900p in many cases.

It'd be stupid of them not to continue using x86-64 architecture, but I'm saying the actual CPU itself is only barely different. The compute power of the GPU is a bad way to measure arbitrary "generation" shifts, and it really won't count if developers can release games that run on both products with the equivalent of an INI change. They don't have to write any new code to release the game on either platform, which just suggests to me that we should measure it in terms of PCs—the generation metric for PC hardware is a lot fuzzier because it's unclear how far away you can get before the least hardware-intensive games will run on older systems without source code changes.

On a side note: I also think that putting things in terms of raw, summed compute power is disingenuous, since the amount of operations the hardware performs has to be taken into account in the context of data throughput and memory as well. A lot of factors need to be measured to come up with a more realistic picture of how much more powerful a piece of hardware is—raw compute power of the actual SPUs increasing doesn't mean nearly as much if it can't store as much texel data in its memory, or if it can't get the contents of its buffer out to the display or the bus fast enough. I'm not saying that pointing out the number of FLOP/S is useless, but it does seem to be the only talking point people talking about the new consoles can bring up and it's kind of getting stale.

 

[Kuwka_Atcha_Ratcha]

that's not true at all. There's no guarantee the 3rd parties would've flocked to them. GCN/N64 were pretty much "standard" consoles, and third parties really didn't do shyt for them. @Prince Luchini's right that 3rd parties still feel some type of way because of the NES/SNES, and to a lesser extent N64 era.

breh are you serious?
N64 had cartridges with LIMITED space, devs couldn't develop for N64 due to this hence why Final Fantasy 7 came to Playstation due to limitations of carts
same goes for gamecube, mini DVD with limited space,

 

[Kuwka_Atcha_Ratcha]

It's going from 1.3 tflops to over 6. That's a drastic leap and is more than a simple upgrade. It's a new generation even if it is temporarily tied to the old.

and ps4 pro went from 1teraflop to 4.5,

 

[Sghost597]

Being 2nd place to Xbox/Sony is actually last place...

If Nintendo would get their collective Japaneses bass ackward heads out of their asses. Stop neglecting the largest gaming market in the world in the USA and make hardware that is appealing to them. It's like Nintendo just hates making money by trying to appeal to a dying consumer base in Japan.

 

[NOYEMI.M2]

breh are you serious?
N64 had cartridges with LIMITED space, devs couldn't develop for N64 due to this hence why Final Fantasy 7 came to Playstation due to limitations of carts
same goes for gamecube, mini DVD with limited space,

I do think it was a strange idea to go with a cartridge-based system for the N64, but the development difficulty wasn't just the amount of space on the carts. The architecture was a little esoteric, though not Sega Saturn level strange.

Funnily enough, while the PS did support redbook audio, this wasn't used directly as often as you'd expect. There were a number of drivers for PS games that ran module files that basically function the same as MPT stuff, much like what the N64 games used. A lot of this CD space was usually used to store full motion video at the time, which is still biting game devs in the ass with how much space it takes up.

 

[Kuwka_Atcha_Ratcha]

NES and SNES were both powerful consoles, were both successful and loved by fans and general gamers

things started going downhill since N64 when they did dumb things like use carts, and ever since then Nintendo continued with gimmicks.

 

[ORDER_66]

They don't want to be #2. They want to appeal to a much wider audience than the traditional gamer. They want people who play Clash of Clans on iPad to buy their products too.

So they want to appeal to casual gamers... havent we learned time and time again if you dont appeal to the core gamers your shyt will fail. Look at the wii and wiiU they was hot for a time but shyt fell off, it's like Nintendo doesnt even want to try, they want to do JUST ENOUGH to pass... lazy fukks man...