Noah "40" Shebib in 2012: "If you dont write your own raps you have no credibility"

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People are getting lost in the fukkery. Meek's "bytchassness" has covered people from realizing that Drake has ghostwriters, because dissing Meek was a sexy headline this past month.

Drake will have his comeuppance soon enough. Once this whole thing dies down, and people smarten up and come to terms with why this whole thing happened.

Complex digging that quote was a sign of things a coming.

VFT6 will be his last album that really sells. Watch.
If I'm Drake I get more writers because the real consequence of this is people's expectations. The moment Drake comes average or below average people will say "you needed help for that . . .?"
 

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Where does this notion of "good music" come from ? Dude's solo projects have never pushed me to even purchase an entire Drake album. Never liked the fact of the "Shooter" who sings/raps on the same tracks. Drake to me has always been one of those dudes who sound better on features then full songs. Then I hear that this guy cant even pen his own verses for features ???

Can dude even spit a hot 16 from the dome ? Ive never heard it.

Now its ok for "rappers" to not write there own rhymes ? Same people saying that shyt are the same cats clowning Ross for being a CO, Plies for being fake, 2chainz not being street since he graduated with a 4.0, etc.....but things are all good when your hero is swiped with a black marker that doesn't disappear ? Fukk outta here with this shyt.

Fact - he was called out for not writing his music, and he never denied it.
But yall constantly trying to spin it, disregarding the fact that the whole style and cadence was copied too, along with the lyrics...acting like some snot nose kids trying to convince people that santa and the tooth fairy are real.

If fake shyt is cool with you, take off your kicks and go buy some xj900's or pro-wings.
 

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1. No one said Meek was lying, QM was in the credits and the question of how much he did has been asked since the physical dropped. Among the people that actually like Drake.
2. point 3 is the same as point 2.
3. We still don't know anything about the process of how they worked, perhaps the bars on R.I.C.O. weren't QM's but Drakes therefore he wasn't credited. He might've have gave it a go with some of Drakes bars and some of his and nothing stuck.

I still don't understand how you delusional ass nikkas still assume that you know everything, let the dudes at OVO speak at least. We can speculate, but that's just it we don't know shyt about their process until they tell us. For all we know they might go back and forth and there's a bunch of different clips from the studio session.
I would love to give Drake the benefit of the doubt. I just cant breh. I give him credit for how he spits it because that is a skill in and of itself
 

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Where does this notion of "good music" come from ? Dude's solo projects have never pushed me to even purchase an entire Drake album. Never liked the fact of the "Shooter" who sings/raps on the same tracks. Drake to me has always been one of those dudes who sound better on features then full songs. Then I hear that this guy cant even pen his own verses for features ???

Can dude even spit a hot 16 from the dome ? Ive never heard it.

Now its ok for "rappers" to not write there own rhymes ? Same people saying that shyt are the same cats clowning Ross for being a CO, Plies for being fake, 2chainz not being street since he graduated with a 4.0, etc.....but things are all good when your hero is swiped with a black marker that doesn't disappear ? Fukk outta here with this shyt.

Fact - he was called out for not writing his music, and he never denied it.
But yall constantly trying to spin it, disregarding the fact that the whole style and cadence was copied too, along with the lyrics...acting like some snot nose kids trying to convince people that santa and the tooth fairy are real.

If fake shyt is cool with you, take off your kicks and go buy some xj900's or pro-wings.
Truth
 

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I would love to give Drake the benefit of the doubt. I just cant breh. I give him credit for how he spits it because that is a skill in and of itself
Personally I don't care, specifically since it was about 5 joints out of 20 on a mixtape that was intended to be free and he wasn't trying to hide anyones involvement and it was his wackest project.
He better come correct next time and he'll have my forgiveness for those joints. Cats are forgiven for a lot worse shyt than working with some dude on a few tracks.

Doggystyle are still classic and Snoop was still dope as fukk during the 90s even though he worked with people on his lyrics and hooks on Doggystyle and Chronic.
 

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Personally I don't care, specifically since it was about 5 joints out of 20 on a mixtape that was intended to be free and he wasn't trying to hide anyones involvement and it was his wackest project.
He better come correct next time and he'll have my forgiveness for those joints. Cats are forgiven for a lot worse shyt than working with some dude on a few tracks.

Doggystyle are still classic and Snoop was still dope as fukk during the 90s even though he worked with people on his lyrics and hooks on Doggystyle and Chronic.
Truthfully, the real crime is getting caught
 

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If I'm Drake I get more writers because the real consequence of this is people's expectations. The moment Drake comes average or below average people will say "you needed help for that . . .?"
I cant get halfway through any drake album.

His monotonous boring ass flow and sleepy ass beats bore me to tears.

Even if his ghost writers feed him a hot line ill miss it out of sheer boredom
 

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Where does this notion of "good music" come from ? Dude's solo projects have never pushed me to even purchase an entire Drake album. Never liked the fact of the "Shooter" who sings/raps on the same tracks. Drake to me has always been one of those dudes who sound better on features then full songs. Then I hear that this guy cant even pen his own verses for features ???

Can dude even spit a hot 16 from the dome ? Ive never heard it.

Now its ok for "rappers" to not write there own rhymes ? Same people saying that shyt are the same cats clowning Ross for being a CO, Plies for being fake, 2chainz not being street since he graduated with a 4.0, etc.....but things are all good when your hero is swiped with a black marker that doesn't disappear ? Fukk outta here with this shyt.

Fact - he was called out for not writing his music, and he never denied it.
But yall constantly trying to spin it, disregarding the fact that the whole style and cadence was copied too, along with the lyrics...acting like some snot nose kids trying to convince people that santa and the tooth fairy are real.

If fake shyt is cool with you, take off your kicks and go buy some xj900's or pro-wings.
So because youdont like it.... it can't be good music to people?
 

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Personally I don't care, specifically since it was about 5 joints out of 20 on a mixtape that was intended to be free and he wasn't trying to hide anyones involvement and it was his wackest project.
He better come correct next time and he'll have my forgiveness for those joints. Cats are forgiven for a lot worse shyt than working with some dude on a few tracks.

Doggystyle are still classic and Snoop was still dope as fukk during the 90s even though he worked with people on his lyrics and hooks on Doggystyle and Chronic.


Do you care about the 11 of 18 on Take Care?

Do you care about the 10 of 15 on NWTS?

Saddest part is that it's on all "his" best songs
 

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Disagree. 10-15 years ago he would be a national hero. In Hip Hop terms. Exposing someone (at the top) for using ghsotwriters would have earned him a :krs: :salute: :blessed: from everyone in the culture for getting a fraud outta here. .


Breh, I wanted Meek to win. I really did. But...
Do you know what Meek's original beef was? It was some hoe shyt "He aint ReTweet my album" :sadbron: and "BTW, this canadian n1kka a fraud :youngsabo:".

Meek is supposed to be the street rapper that came from battling.

Yet the soft n1kka from Canada is the one that dropped the one good diss track. Please tell me why Meek dropped such a trash diss track like Wanna Know... when he CAME FROM BATTLING??


Meek is the one consistently posting on Twitter and IG twenty times a day. Drake is a fukkin pop rapper.


He wouldn't have had to reply to a diss track because no one would have taken a diss track from someone who's using a ghsotwriters, even a little bit serious. That's the difference

You right, but that's on Meek. He let Drake control the narrative.

Notice nobody cares that Drake is a fraud? Notice nobody cares that Drake never denied having a ghost writer?

Everybody is talking about how lame Meek is. Dude is an embarrassment right now

especially with shyt like this... Another reason why the public turned on Meek = been actin like Nicki's bytch





Think about this..

Day 1 - Meek exposes Drake
Day 3 - Drake drops Charged Up - subpar diss track. nobody really liked it like that
Day 5 - DJ Flex and Meek say "diss track coming". Diss track never comes. This is when the public started to turn on Meek.
Day 6 - Drake drops Back 2 Back... everybody feelin that shyt.

Now Meek in trouble.

What he doing? :ohhh:

Meek still on Twitter, posting corny azz shyt

After 10 days of preparation... Meek drops a piece of garbage. Played smart.... fukk it, played normal this should've ended Drake's spot at #1. Instead, this ended Meek's chance of ever getting there
 

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Truthfully, the real crime is getting caught
It would've been worse if QM, another rapper, wasn't credited and wasn't given props in the booklet.
Which is why he said "nikkas are snitching, with no interrogation", we don't know exactly how they worked or anything.

I wonder if he'll caves and not give anyone props, not even for hooks for next album.
IMO I hope he keeps it real and gives props to anyone who did anything on the album, unlike all these 90s nikkas who were sneaking with their business.
 

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It would've been worse if QM, another rapper, wasn't credited and wasn't given props in the booklet.
Which is why he said "nikkas are snitching, with no interrogation", we don't know exactly how they worked or anything.

I wonder if he'll caves and not give anyone props, not even for hooks for next album.
IMO I hope he keeps it real and gives props to anyone who did anything on the album, unlike all these 90s nikkas who were sneaking with their business.
Yeah, because doing it himself from here on out is not an option
 
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