Noah "40" Shebib in 2012: "If you dont write your own raps you have no credibility"

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1st statement..I can see.

People felt the same way in Eminem :manny:

They both occupy that golden goose status with the industry (Drake is being set up as his successor) but the difference is one is an all time talent at this rap shyt and actually deserves that seat when we are talking about ability and authenticity.

I think there's been an erosion taking place in the mid-to-bottom levels, but the elite rappers were still very artful. The reason this is a big deal is because for the first time, a top rapper has been exposed. No one would care if Rae Sremmurd or Bobby Shmurda got caught using ghosts, but for a rapper of Drake's caliber to be using ghosts is unprecedented. Rap as a whole may not be as quality as it once was, but there are still a lot of rappers who are writing their own bars and are committed to the art. The idea was that they get rewarded by being placed in a more respected echelon than the other guys who are just in it for the entertainment value. But now we've just witnessed an attempt to destroy that barrier. Rap is still not Pop to me (TPAB is a perfect example of how artistic and quality rap can be in this day and age), but the way things are going, it's going to be.

nikkas kill me with this "oh it's been like this for so long, why are you surprised".

Drakes contemporaries (Cole/Kendrick) are REAL fukkING EMCEES. Not only that but as far as sales go they are barely a tier below him and until evidence to the contrary comes to light they are 100% penning their rhymes and others on top of that. He shouldn't even be allowed to stand next to them at this point.
 

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It might be worse than we thought:ohhh:

Drake is just some spoiled rich kid who bought his way into the game:scust:...actually makes more sense than the idea that a former child star somehow goes on to become the biggest rapper in the game just by chance:mjlol:


If I wanted to put in the effort. I would track this IQ dude down on social media
 

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Schweinbeck is the Atlanta manager who threw that Meek mill wanted help from Q too shyt out there that nikkas thought sounded foolish.So she knew about QM n Drake for a minute apparently. If y'all want to peep Quentin's mixtape it's on her site.
Quentin Miller – Hey! Thanks A Lot 2 – Schweinbeck.com

I listened to a couple of his songs.Might finish it later on.

Time is a flat circle brehs.
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so does that add credibility to her claims that meek was trying to borrow quentin's pen too? :lupe:
 

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It might be worse than we thought:ohhh:

Drake is just some spoiled rich kid who bought his way into the game:scust:...actually makes more sense than the idea that a former child star somehow goes on to become the biggest rapper in the game just by chance:mjlol:
shyt sounds mad far fetched in hindsight :mjlol:

What really are the chances of that? :heh:
 

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lets get back to business brehs

Although Hush established himself in the early 2000’s as one of Toronto’s prolific story-tellers, he “quit” rapping years ago much to the disappointment of his loyal, underground fan base. Nowadays, Hush is often seen by Drake’s side and contributes to Drake’s creative processes. But Hush isn’t what you’d call an active rapper these days, except when it comes to Big Lean’s projects. This isn’t an accident. It speaks to the bond between Parma Court rappers, who see each other as the best there are and rarely reach too far outside their circle for collaborations.

“If you spent a week with Drake you wouldn’t want to be a rapper anymore,” says Hush during a reluctant interview. “It’s not as fun as people think. Sure, you might get rich, but I’d rather make $100,000 and be unknown than make a million and be a star…I rap wit Lean because I made him a promise years ago. Before I decided to quit rapping I promised him I’d rap on one track per project. But I’m not trying to rap.”

Big Lean straddles the line between commercial and street (Article)
 

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Drake & Ghost Writing.....????!!!!
by Young Marley

Nov 12, 2009


A source with knowledge drops this: Well I used to stay in Toronto now I’m in NY. Drake and writer Nickelus F. from Virginia used to be seen everywhere in TO together about 6 years ago. He used to have a white Range Rover. He used to fly Nick out and bring him to Raptor games and s**t. If you search hard enough you can find all of these pics.

Drake does have money. He lives in one of the most expensive places in North America. His mother is wealthy. Not rich but wealthy. He was on the show from he was 12/13 years of age. He was getting roughly 90 to 125 k per season for the past 10 years. Realistically when you don’t have any bills or expenses that’s whole lot of money which is why he was able to pay his way into the game. He ran out of money early last year and received money from some investors in Houston, TX. He was in TX a lot because he had a girl out there which is how he met Wayne. Wayne heard his CD ina barber shop in H Town.

Nickelus F. is the one who got Malice on that song with Drake. Drake used to throw a lot of money around to get into the industry which is why him and Trey Songz is cool. When Drake was getting more known in TO he wanted more radio friendly less edgy lyrics so he switched up writers because Canadian audience is really conservative. I know cats from Illusive Media who worked with Nickelus F. and they showed me that Drake paid for many of his videos and things of that nature for the songs he was writing. Also, Nickelus F. hooked him up with many connects in the game especially when he was in talks with Def Jam.

From what I heard from VERY reliable sources in the Drake camp and from NY is that this IQ cat from Brooklyn was negotiating selling songs to Drake. Drake would buy hooks or entire songs (concepts and verses). IQ is Rakim’s protege, his pen game is mean. IQ helped him on a couple of records but Drake got pissed when he wouldn’t give him his personal records that he was gonna use for his own career.

Numerous guys in Toronto have contributed to Drake’s music. Richie Sosa being one of them, not a big collaborator but he did help Drake.

This information wasn’t too confidential because the studio sessions had many people present so everybody saw Drake and 40 asking for the rhymes. Another thing you can ask people is if they’ve EVER seen Drake actually write/think/freestyle/type/ or just overall create a song on the spot. NEVER.

There are possibly others that I don’t know of so I can’t give out any more info. I will leave you with this, Drake is not new, he’s actually paid top dollar for meeting with the biggest industry execs and he was shut down.

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