O-bam-a: I Can’t Pursue Rep's Because It’s Politically Infeasible

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You don't want to pay money to families? Well take it out of other resources. You got illegal aliens going to college for free here in the US. Stop that shyt and make sure every black child has their college or vocational school paid free. Any black person that owns a house should have their mortgage paid off. These fukkers won't even do something as simple as that. Nothing will ever happen until black people just take it.
 

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Obama, can you explain why these are feasible but paying to Black Americans is infeasible?
theres 13 million of us
u know how much money the govt would have to pay :heh:
they need to do some shyt like we get free state schooling like the indians or something
 

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Found a better source:

‘Better Is Good’: Obama on Reparations, Civil Rights, and the Art of the Possible




To address the orange I will say he is full of shyt. Black Americans can point to their family tree, archives, historical documentation to point at where they were done wrong. This dude is a massive c00n.
bullshyt.... most of us can't even or don't even know our history... let alone which of us were slaves and their names and shyt like that... and shyt like that is what you need to prove to get reparations


then you need to get it through both houses of congress.... with a set dollar amount... and how it will be paid out... and to whom...





that shyt ain't fukking ever gonna happen... i don't care if trump put that shyt on the books with the republicans in charge of both houses...




this is racist ass america... you think these white motherfukkers gonna let you take their tax money to pay us off??



nikka please
 

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let's not get it twisted, black people are absolutely entitled to a check because of slavery and the continuing oppression of the black population for profit. marshall plan too.

obama's excuse to not even try because he knows it would get shot down is a terrible excuse. i'm sure other groups who won reparations were shot down plenty of times. money isn't the issue, because they got it. gov waste, military industrial complex, wealth tied up property claimed under eminent domain. they just don't want to own up to the evil shyt they did and make it right. it would also expose private business who don't want their dirty secret out in the open.

i agree with not waiting for reparations and doing what we need to do. at the same time i don't agree with not fighting for what's owed to us. no matter how many times congress tries to shoot it down they need to be challenged and put on record regularly. and there's no one in a better position to get this started than obama, but he seems paralyzed by fear or by how big a challenge it would be.

the logistics of doling out reparations would be monumental but that doesn't make it a non starter.

we can't be scared of pushing for reparations because of how impossible it might seem. we'll bust our azz to get ahead in the meantime, but we need to put these folks on notice that we want what we're due. and we ain't gonna let up.
 
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I wasnt thinking about those states I'm thinking Vermont, Pennslyvania Montana, Arizona, Texas... ETC... :mjlol: tons of white states where they are the majority...

Vermont is a blue state, and Pennsylvania is traditionally a blue state but has been gerrymandered to hell. No one gives a fukk about Montana and Arizona is about to be taken over by Hispanics so it will in turn become a blue progressive state. You don't seem to have any answers at all except to bytch. Nor are you looking for answers.

You honestly don't even seem interested in having a conversation at all
 
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Vermont is a blue state, and Pennsylvania is traditionally a blue state but has been gerrymandered to hell. No one gives a fukk about Montana and Arizona is about to be taken over by Hispanics so it will in turn become a blue progressive state. You don't seem to have any answers at all except to bytch. Nor are you looking for answers.

You honestly don't even seem interested in having a conversation at all
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Like I said white & republican people are the majority in ALOT of these red states...:coffee: am I lying...

I know im not crazy...
 

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I can tell you one difference. The sheer amount of money.

The Japanese got $20K per person. If you do that for every descendant of a former slave in the US, it would be $600 Billion. The Japanese got $1.2B
Exactly. Plus look at the pattern of reparations and how they are given.

The reparations for the Japanese was for every single living person that was sent to Internment camps by FDR on a President executive order. That was like 100,000-120,000 people. Surviving victims only. Not their families or descendants. The Jews who survived the holocaust got their reparations. Not their descendants or family members. The issue when it comes to black reparations is that all of the slaves have died.

Now, if you jump in time to Jim Crow, the argument for reparations becomes stronger. But the only people that would technically be paid is our grand parents generation. Not us and not are parents generation. So you would have to do a search of every black person born between a certain time frame, preferably the 20's to 50's. Even then it would be hard to establish a perfected group so that nobody gets skipped. So for example if the cut off point is 1955 and you were born in 1956, you don't get anything. That would cause outrage.

When you do that, you'll still have a bunch of people upset that the entire black race didn't get them.
 

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Exactly. Plus look at the pattern of reparations and how they are given.

The reparations for the Japanese was for every single living person that was sent to Internment camps by FDR on a President executive order. That was like 100,000-120,000 people. Surviving victims only. Not their families or descendants. The Jews who survived the holocaust got their reparations. Not their descendants or family members. The issue when it comes to black reparations is that all of the slaves have died.

Now, if you jump in time to Jim Crow, the argument for reparations becomes stronger. But the only people that would technically be paid is our grand parents generation. Not us and not are parents generation. So you would have to do a search of every black person born between a certain time frame, preferably the 20's to 50's. Even then it would be hard to establish a perfected group so that nobody gets skipped. So for example if the cut off point is 1955 and you were born in 1956, you don't get anything. That would cause outrage.

When you do that, you'll still have a bunch of people upset that the entire black race didn't get them.
incorrect, Jim crow, slavery , redlining , new Jim crow and countless other anti-African American laws have impacted black folks. a case study needs to be done to showcase the potential losses that have occurred for African Americans due to oppression
 

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incorrect, Jim crow, slavery , redlining , new Jim crow and countless other anti-African American laws have impacted black folks. a case study needs to be done to showcase the potential losses that have occurred for African Americans due to oppression
No, I'm correct. Reagan's 100:1 crack to cocaine sentencing ratio, The War on Drugs, War on Crime impacted everyone, blacks were unfortunately the proportional victims behind that. For reparations to be given for that, there would have to be proof that Reagan and Clinton signed those laws with racist intentions. Otherwise they'll dismiss that as former Presidents 'trying to do something better for the country while not understanding the impact this may have proportionally.'

Jim Crow on the other hand is clear cut.
 

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Thing is Obama was in position to be the black guy who FORMALLY made the demand for all of us. If it's shot down so be it, but at least make the demand formally.

Formally making the demand makes this country show its true face. We must force this country to show its true face before we get anywhere! Force all the fencesitters and hidden racist to show their hand.

We need a prominent or nationally known black, preferably with a degree in law (Obama) to make the official demand. Right now...the country and Congress can pretend as if they're unaware blacks are talking reparations. If Obama had put reparations on the table the media and everything else couldn't ignore it. THAT'S why Obama never mentions it. Was probably told he and his family would be killed if he did.

This country doesn't even want to have the conversation of reparations because it will lose it.

Treat this country like you treat a person who owes you money and keeps avoiding you. Who everytime yall in the same room they hurry out for fear you bring up what they owe you.

You must first hem them in and make a formal demand for your money. That way you force them to tell you no and probably why. Then you handle it from there.

First thing we need is a prominent black to inform black people the plan and then make the demand.
 

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This country will ignore us until we make some real noise. Right now the country is telling us, "fukk you nwords, what are you going to do about it?"

We haven't responded except to tell them we're going to shut the fukk up and keep our heads down.

We're in a prison society and we're just going about our imprisonment with our heads down and just accepting the horrid conditions. We're institutionalized and accepting our stay.

We have to muthafukkin riot...and make it known we not staying locked down unjustly!

We must have these conversations to see who's down to ride, and who's just going take their bytch ass back to their cell and lockdown!

If you need reparations or not...you still suppose to ride with your fukkin people! Just because your hoe ass don't mind rat shyt in your food don't mean you go sit in your cell while field nikkas burning papers and mattresses! Cause we see your bytch ass...and if shyt change due to our voice or fight...YOU BETTER NOT TOUCH shyt!!!!
 
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