Official Thread: El Paso and Dayton mass shootings; 8/9 2 mass shootings prevented

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ya i've noticed racism and the white victimhood mentality has definitely been on the rise here. especially since trump took office. white supremacists wet dream though? that's a bit over-the-top.:russ:



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that's a trump quote.


Have you seen Quebec or Alberta lately? Quebec is open season on non whites and racism. shyt my dad lives less then 90 minutes outside of Toronto and they had to tell the kids there to stop rocking Confederate clothing. My house is less then 5 minutes away from the old Your Ward News home base and I would get the most vile anti-semitic news papers in my mail. Jordan Peterson to Faith Goldy types. Richard Spencer becoming the person he is while living in Toronto. Rebel media. Andrew Scheer using Trump like tactics. On the surface it's all good, but when you dig deeper it smells like shyt. Outside of the GTA it's all small towns and cities in this country.
 

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There's going to be a new legal debate about fitness for trial, in the upcoming years, and a fascinating debate about intent and wellness. Obviously, the shooter had intent to kill, knowledge of his action, took steps to carry out his plan, but there has to be something said about the fitness of someone who thought killing people at a mall, would stem the flow of immigration, or "restore the US". What do you consider a person like this? Mentally ill? But fit for trial? Diseased by hate and fanned by online communities of vile racism? All that, but what else? They seem to have lost all sense of reason, while having the state of mind to write a manifesto, post online, and go about their daily life. Like the "Influenza" defense. (edit_ affluenza) Like "My client was infected by racism and violence through online groups and Facebook)

I hit my friend and we talked briefly, she is conservative leaning, and I believe her boyfriend is, but she is a thoughtful and smart person, who cites me as an influence on her beliefs. She did talk about how "some people" are wondering why people weren't carrying guns, which I barely commented on. It's just crazy how stuck people are on that good people with guns could save the world, in a targeted mass shooting, where someone unloads on unsuspecting bystanders with high powered weapons. A bunch of loons pulling out their open carry would just create an even bloodier shootout.
 
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@AnnoyedWithHoes negged me for suggesting a constitutional change citing that the 2nd amendment prevents dictatorships

I think that that thinking is outdated

I dont care how many civilians have guns..theyre not stopping the government from being tyrannical. I dont buy that argument anymore. If the military decides to have a coup and rolls into cities with tanks u think civilians with guns are going to stop them? :stopitslime:

But lets just say for arguments sake that youre right

We still need significant gun control laws. No automatic weapons whatsoever.

We should ban hunting too and :umad: to people who hunt. Hunters are sadistic and we've done enough harm to animals with urban sprawl and pollution. I want my theoretical kids and grandkids to be able to enjoy wildlife rather than look at books and see what used to live on the planet and are now extinct
Vietnamese and Afghans will like to have a word with you. War is usually numbers anyway. I’m talking about government not to shoot folks on the street but it’s the world we live in.
 

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There's going to be a new legal debate about fitness for trial, in the upcoming year, and a fascinating debate about intent and wellness. Obviously, the shooter had intent to kill, knowledge of his action, took steps to carry out his plan, but there has to be something said about the fitness of someone who thought killing people at a mall, would stem the flow of immigration, or "restore the US". What do you consider a person like this? Mentally ill? But fit for trial? Diseased by hate and fanned by online communities of vile racism? All that, but what else? They seem to have lost all sense of reason, while having the state of mind to write a manifesto, post online, and go about their daily life. Like the "Influenza" defense.

I hit my friend and we talked briefly, she is conservative leaning, and I believe her boyfriend is, but she is a thoughtful and smart person, who cites me as an influence on her beliefs. She did talk about how "some people" are wondering why people weren't carrying guns, which I barely commented on. It's just crazy how stuck people are on that good people with guns could save the world, in a targeted mass shooting, where someone unloads on unsuspecting bystanders with high powered weapons. A bunch of loons pulling out their open carry would just create an even bloodier shootout.
The term for a person like this is a terrorist. Ask what would be done to them if they were blown, were a practicing Muslim, or a member of al qaeda and then do that to them.
 

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There's going to be a new legal debate about fitness for trial, in the upcoming years, and a fascinating debate about intent and wellness. Obviously, the shooter had intent to kill, knowledge of his action, took steps to carry out his plan, but there has to be something said about the fitness of someone who thought killing people at a mall, would stem the flow of immigration, or "restore the US". What do you consider a person like this? Mentally ill? But fit for trial? Diseased by hate and fanned by online communities of vile racism? All that, but what else? They seem to have lost all sense of reason, while having the state of mind to write a manifesto, post online, and go about their daily life. Like the "Influenza" defense. (edit_ affluenza) Like "My client was infected by racism and violence through online groups and Facebook)

I hit my friend and we talked briefly, she is conservative leaning, and I believe her boyfriend is, but she is a thoughtful and smart person, who cites me as an influence on her beliefs. She did talk about how "some people" are wondering why people weren't carrying guns, which I barely commented on. It's just crazy how stuck people are on that good people with guns could save the world, in a targeted mass shooting, where someone unloads on unsuspecting bystanders with high powered weapons. A bunch of loons pulling out their open carry would just create an even bloodier shootout.
They're mentally fit, almost all of the time. They're young and have been indoctrinated into fascist movements. This is why I always said to just immediately ban anybody bringing that stuff here for "debate." They don't care about losing debates, being proven wrong, looking stupid to most people. They just want their signal out there, reaching young men. They won't stop, you won't change their minds. Shut them down and bash their brains in. Then it's over. For a while.
 

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The term for a person like this is a terrorist. Ask what would be done to them if they were blown, were a practicing Muslim, or a member of al qaeda and then do that to them.

Yes, but many of these are being handled at a state level, which doesn't have the legal framework for terrorism charges, and in fact, many of the terrorists who are tried in federal court, are not tried on terrorism charges, which I am not sure even exist, in the way the term is used. What was the man tried for the October 2017 Chelsela incident charged with? Or the bomber? I don't believe terrorism.

"Mr. Rahimi was charged with eight counts of transporting and setting explosives in New York for use as weapons of mass destruction. He was found guilty of all eight"

Chelsea Bomb Suspect Guilty in Attack That Sowed Terror Across Region

The van suspect was charged with similar offenses, capital murder, and other assorted charges.
 
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