Official War With Iran Thread

[MAKAVELI25]

We still have blue MAGites in here caping for Israel?

If you're talking about @88m3 he is not blue MAGA, he is either mentally ill or a paid propagandist. If he truly believes any of the bullshyt he bothers typing up, he's just as untethered to reality as the lunatic in the Oval Office.

 

[88m3]

If you're talking about @88m3

Even the UN found Iran's actions in Lebanon and Syria to be unjustifiable war crimes

 

[MAKAVELI25]

Even the UN found Iran's actions in Lebanon and Syria to be unjustifiable war crimes

UN also found that Israel is committing genocide in Gaza, no? How about the ICC warrants out against Netanyahu and Yoav Gallant?

You really want to go down the road of the international community findings when it comes to rogue states?

 

[88m3]

whataboutism

everyone is aware of that

you're still refusing to even acknowledge Iran's actions and role in this ever growing tragedy

 

[Loose]

If you're talking about @88m3 he is not blue MAGA, he is either mentally ill or a paid propagandist. If he truly believes any of the bullshyt he bothers typing up, he's just as untethered to reality as the lunatic in the Oval Office.

Probably talking about @Pressure who pretends to not care about Israel but submitting pages of defense for them daily

 

[MeachTheMonster]

Yes we ended this worse off

Seems that’s all he’s saying.

Why is he “trippin”

 

[CrimsonTider]

This has been a thing since 1980

 

[Pressure]

Probably talking about @Pressure who pretends to not care about Israel but submitting pages of defense for them daily

I generally spend my time talking about Iran, but because I'm not glazing them and call them out for the oppressive theocracy and destabilizing force they are and rightfully point out facts that support those conclusions you think that means I care for Israel.

 

[88m3]

This has been a thing since 1980

let them freak out

 

[Jmare007]

This conflict has everything to do with how their government treats their own people and it shows why they can't be allowed to have nuclear weapons and ballistic missiles. Iran's actions in this conflict of indiscriminate killings and bombings have laid that bare.

every side is doing heinous shyt. If we going by what people do with their bombs neither Iran, Israel or the U.S should be allowed to have them. They all killing innocent folks like it's a sport.

You are in this thread trying to push "why don't more people complain about Iran doing fukked up shyt" which is valid in the sense that they are doing fukked up shyt and acting like they are "good guys" is straight up moronic. But you can't act like both sides don't have enough ammo to do whataboutism whenever they feel like it, because everyone involved has a fukk ton of instances of shyt that could be argued justifies a retaliation of some sort.

Hell, Bahrein and Saudi have done fukked up shyt on their own people as well. I don't see what's the point of doing "no no, THEY are the problem" when you can pull receipts in most of the players in the region.

I think you're wrong. The reason there is so much tension and violence in the region is because Iran has armed it's proxies to the teeth. See Lebanon, see Syria, see Yemen and see Iraq. It doesn't take a miracle. Iran failed in Syria. Iran failed and or are close to failing in Lebanon. It's time for governments to stop putting their hands in the air and walking away.

Iran is a major destabilizer, but not the origin of the region’s problems. Most of the region’s conflicts existed before Iran’s current regime and are shaped by local politics, colonial borders, resource competition, and failed states. Iran pours gasoline in any fire it can find and is a huge problem, for sure, but it did not starts those fires. Thinking that with them being a "good boy" shyt gets fixed is reductionist and naive, imo. And for them to become a "good boy" -which again, I don't see as the grand solution of this shyt- you probably have to commit worse levels of atrocities you hate about them.

 

[NaijaProdigy Redux]

Israel will have zero friends by the end of this

I know Trump is sitting in bed right now like “damn. Did these motherfukkers play me? “

 

[Pressure]

The world isn’t going to let them extort them for ships passing indefinitely. Neither will corporate greed.

of course this idiot is ratfukking his biggest donors/supporters

Sad!

 

[88m3]

every side is doing heinous shyt. If we going by what people do with their bombs neither Iran, Israel or the U.S should be allowed to have them. They all killing innocent folks like it's a sport.

You are in this thread trying to push "why don't more people complain about Iran doing fukked up shyt" which is valid in the sense that they are doing fukked up shyt and acting like they are "good guys" is straight up moronic. But you can't act like both sides don't have enough ammo to do whataboutism whenever they feel like it, because everyone involved has a fukk ton of instances of shyt that could be argued justifies a retaliation of some sort.

Hell, Bahrein and Saudi have done fukked up shyt on their own people as well. I don't see what's the point of doing "no no, THEY are the problem" when you can pull receipts in most of the players in the region.


Iran is a major destabilizer, but not the origin of the region’s problems. Most of the region’s conflicts existed before Iran’s current regime and are shaped by local politics, colonial borders, resource competition, and failed states. Iran pours gasoline in any fire it can find and is a huge problem, for sure, but it did not starts those fires. Thinking that with them being a "good boy" shyt gets fixed is reductionist and naive, imo. And for them to become a "good boy" -which again, I don't see as the grand solution of this shyt- you probably have to commit worse levels of atrocities you hate about them.

I'm not debating that.

My issue is that this woe is me narrative that Iran apologists and tankies push is absolute bs.

Iran doesn't have the bomb, shouldn't, and in a perfect world no one does.

Want the UK to take another stab at drawing borders or should Mohammad have a mulligan and lay out his succession plan more clearly?

At the end of the day we don't have a time machine and killing all of the Jews seems to be easier said than done.

Iran has so far continue to choose terrorism, ethnic cleansing, nuclear weapons, killing little girls for not wearing hijabs and etc over sanctions relief and becoming a responsible international player. That's completely their choice to make but it may come with foreseeable and unforeseeable consequences but they seem to think the juice is worth the squeeze.

 

[ADevilYouKhow]

Iran says peace talks would be 'unreasonable' following Israeli strikes — Reuters

Israel pounded Lebanon with its heaviest strikes yet on Wednesday, killing hundreds of people and drawing a threat of retaliation from Iran, which suggested it would be "unreasonable" to ‌proceed with talks to forge a permanent peace deal with the United States.

apple.news

Back to the drawing board?

 

[Pressure]

Iran says peace talks would be 'unreasonable' following Israeli strikes — Reuters

Israel pounded Lebanon with its heaviest strikes yet on Wednesday, killing hundreds of people and drawing a threat of retaliation from Iran, which suggested it would be "unreasonable" to ‌proceed with talks to forge a permanent peace deal with the United States.

apple.news

Back to the drawing board?

The similarities between the Iranian and Hamas playbooks regarding the ceasefires and Israel and the US being the same players on the other side with a more aggressive Trump administration should be a clear sign that things will get worse.