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Pass me the rock nikka
Nah. He’s nothing like Warren.
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Pass me the rock nikka
Aaron Nesmith
Devin Vassell
Markus Howard
Tyrell Terry
Saddiq Bey
Desmond Bane
Isaiah Joe
Right now Knicks bloggers believe Vassell is the favorite. He’s a shooter with athleticism and can defend. I just wish he shot threes at a higher volume in college but he’s a good fit with Barrett and has the prototypical SG size.
Our biggest position of need is PG though and we may very well go with a PG. I like LaMelo, Cole Anthony, and Killian Hayes, because they can all create their shots. Tyrell Terry and Markus Howard are great shooters but kinda small and can be had with our second first round pick or second round pick potentially (in Howard’s case). Most Knicks fans are high on the speedster Kira Lewis.
In the second round it’s possible we draft a Serbian 7-footer named Aleksej Pokusevski, but dude is only 190 pounds
From what I’ve seen can pass, handle, and shoot
Aaron Nesmith
Devin Vassell
Markus Howard
Tyrell Terry
Saddiq Bey
Desmond Bane
Isaiah Joe
Right now Knicks bloggers believe Vassell is the favorite. He’s a shooter with athleticism and can defend. I just wish he shot threes at a higher volume in college but he’s a good fit with Barrett and has the prototypical SG size.
Our biggest position of need is PG though and we may very well go with a PG. I like LaMelo, Cole Anthony, and Killian Hayes, because they can all create their shots. Tyrell Terry and Markus Howard are great shooters but kinda small and can be had with our second first round pick or second round pick potentially (in Howard’s case). Most Knicks fans are high on the speedster Kira Lewis.
In the second round it’s possible we draft a Serbian 7-footer named Aleksej Pokusevski, but dude is only 190 pounds
From what I’ve seen can pass, handle, and shoot
So it’s basically between a dynamic PG and an elite 3&D player. I dunno, I think a PG might be better if y’all really believe the prospect chosen can be a difference maker. How does the draft look on the backend in terms of PGs? Maybe y’all can get that shooter early and then get a solid PG later on. That Serb might be aight if y’all give him time to develop and grow.
Aaron Nesmith
Devin Vassell
Markus Howard
Tyrell Terry
Saddiq Bey
Desmond Bane
Isaiah Joe
Right now Knicks bloggers believe Vassell is the favorite. He’s a shooter with athleticism and can defend. I just wish he shot threes at a higher volume in college but he’s a good fit with Barrett and has the prototypical SG size.
Our biggest position of need is PG though and we may very well go with a PG. I like LaMelo, Cole Anthony, and Killian Hayes, because they can all create their shots. Tyrell Terry and Markus Howard are great shooters but kinda small and can be had with our second first round pick or second round pick potentially (in Howard’s case). Most Knicks fans are high on the speedster Kira Lewis.
In the second round it’s possible we draft a Serbian 7-footer named Aleksej Pokusevski, but dude is only 190 pounds
From what I’ve seen can pass, handle, and shoot
Poku won’t make it to the second round. I doubt he makes it to 20 unless nba scouts are THAT much different from the mock draft guys.
storyteller
Veteran
The Knicks definitely could use a boost everywhere. But the biggest needs are three point shooting and playmaking. Position the recognized needs are a PG that can quarterback the offense and a stretch 4 that can give the Knicks proper NBA spacing (we haven't had it in a long time). The other thing the Knicks seem to lack are players with two-way talent. Their best defenders are raw and limited offensively (Mitch and Frank) while their best scorers have played no kinda defense (Randle, Trier types).
So that's how a name like Vassell really flashes off the draft board. He's got real two way potential, his floor is a 3 and D player and he clocks as the best shooter efficiency wise. Personally, I like Desmond Bane with a later pick...but that's not because Vassell's bad, it's just that I think you use top 10 picks on home run swings while Vassell feels like swinging for a single. Vassell/Bane both share a quality in that they fit with our current young pieces pretty seamlessly. They won't command a ton of touches; they add more defense; and they open the floor for RJ and Mitch.
Getting a long term PG is something we're all dying for. Rumor has it the Knicks are willing to pass on PG at 8, probably because the top ones are likely to be gone. Killian and LaMelo, I think we're out of reach to grab. Haliburton might make it but he's not a guarantee and he's also more of a high floor, lesser upside guy. That's where the second tier PG's with big upside come in. Kira Lewis and Cole Anthony both can shoot off the dribble and fill it up. I take Kira over everyone but LaMelo and Killian. His speed is game changing and he can make any pass you ask him to...with both hands. He's comfortable on the pull up jumper too, so defenders can't just go under screens on him.
My board is something like this (removing players I just don't see as roster fits or moving them down tiers)
Tier one: LaMelo, Anthony Edwards
Tier two: Killian, Deni,
Tier three: Kira, Vassell, Obi, Haliburton, Wiseman, Cole
Tier four: Maxey, Bane, Hampton, Poku, Maledon, Balmaro
But that's a throw together. I'd have to think about guys like Okungwu and Okoro more...I really like them as prospects just not for us. Same with Wiseman really. That's just the list of players where, I'm hoping we can get two of any of these guys listed.
Whether or not he’ll have the talent for it, RJ really has the perfect temperament to be a star in NY. Love how he moves and carries himself. Staying low and just working his ass off like we all know he does. You can tell he wants to be great too. Badly.
Deep_Black_Conscious
Superstar
The good news is Hanlen has a great track record
He closely observes what a player is doing wrong and goes on from there
He's worked with Tatum, Beal, etc. he knows what he's doing
This is why I can't understand how anyone can make definitive statements on how good RJ can become
Already had people hatin on the kid feenin for Zion and Ja as if the Knicks chose RJ over them
That makes sense after a couple seasons of watching a player but not after a rookie season that RJ didn't even get to finish
You never know how much a player can improve from their rookie season
Watch everyone jump on the bandwagon if he turns out great and exceeds expectations like y'all knew all along
Rooting for the kid. I think he’s gonna be a big factor for y’all.
Brehs was talkin the other day tho, what if Harden/Westbrook on the market? Y’all biting or y’all want to just do a holistic rebuild?
Like everything it depends on cost. If the rockets are desperate and want to give Westbrook away i’d consider it strongly. I don’t want Harden at all.
Lurk Angle
All Star
Yeah the squad hasn't had a player like that in a while
He really has the mamba mentality
I still think his ceiling is derozen/jalen rose but he's gonna be good
The good news is Hanlen has a great track record
He closely observes what a player is doing wrong and goes on from there
He's worked with Tatum, Beal, etc. he knows what he's doing
This is why I can't understand how anyone can make definitive statements on how good RJ can become
Already had people hatin on the kid feenin for Zion and Ja as if the Knicks chose RJ over them
That makes sense after a couple seasons of watching a player but not after a rookie season that RJ didn't even get to finish
You never know how much a player can improve from their rookie season
Watch everyone jump on the bandwagon if he turns out great and exceeds expectations like y'all knew all along
My thing with RJ is that he’s not the most fluid athlete. That will naturally limit his ceiling no matter how brilliant of a scorer he can become. What separates James Harden from just being a great shooter is his shiftiness combined with his strength. Things like that you can’t really acquire. RJ will have the strength and may very well become a great shooter with his work ethic. But being stiff isn’t something you can drastically change.
Deep_Black_Conscious
Superstar
I watched pretty much every game and he became more fluid as the season went on
Especially in the 2nd half
I don't think that's a strong reason for why he can't exceed expectations
I guarantee you he will look smoother as he gets stronger and his handles get better
"Shiftiness" and handles are some of the things Hanlen said RJ's been working on outside of shooting
(small victories Frank Hive)
We going to the finals next years brehs. I said what I said
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