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there are rumors the Cavs would like to move down and get Obi. They might legit do a #5 trade for #8 and #27. Knicks could come away with Okoro who if he improves his shooting could be a beast.
It’s not a great fit but based on my understanding the Knicks FO will draft based on BPA. So the move up isn’t insane.
It’s super likely Okoro falls to 8 and Toppin goes top 3. Everything I’m reading is that Toppin the most loved player in the draft.
seemorecizzy
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this offseason is a write off for more reasons than one. plus theres no good free agents anyway. shyt wont be normal until 2022. by then, paul is pretty much off da books or could be bought out if we get him
we had cap space last offseason with a way better free agent class and did nothing.
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I said it here mad times “Thibs don’t give a fukk about a 3”. I’ve accepted that, ya’ll will too.... I don’t know how offensively it would work, but Thib barely cares about offense. He is the anti-D’antoni.
To be fair I said this a few days ago, we have never been attached to anyone who you would expect to be drafted at 27. They’ve never moved like they expected to use that pick. If they can move into the top 5 for just #27 which is what the rumor is, you got to give them credit.
There have been no mentions of those late first pick player’s names. The only things I’ve heard has always had us either around 8 or near the end of the lottery. Which not for nothing I think they could probably get a late lottery pick by absorbing a contract.
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Contract year Frank
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Anybody posting another Ntilikina video should be banned forever from posting in Knicks threads.
So you’re saying more Frank videos?Built to Win: Knicks' prospect Isaac Okoro hates losing
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I’m down for drafting Kira Lewis brehs that speed is blinding. Throw Dennis Smith jr in the bushes
Contract year Frank
See, i didn’t even want to post this cause of the hating ass nikkas in the thread...
Okoro’s shooting would bother me a lot less if we do end up with Paul... That defensive versatility... he could easily play the four in late game situations too.
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I'm not saying to use our cap space on FA's, I'm saying to use it on teams that want to dump contracts. Tony Snell and TJ Warren both got moved with picks just for the price of eating their contracts. Both guys were getting paid roughly 12 million a season and went for late-first/early second round compensation.
Those contracts moved at that cost when there was a weaker FA class and the salary cap was supposed to keep going up. Right now, there's even more incentive for teams to want to dump contracts. It's not as flashy as using all that cap and a first on CP3; but the long term value of eating a couple of bad contracts and gaining assets instead of losing some could be a lot more rewarding.
1. You get a few more picks to add the extra 1st and 2nd rounders that have been accumulated. Those either become young players or can be packaged for a star when we're ready to compete.
2. You keep the team in rebuild mode heading into the 2021 draft which is gonna be the most stacked in years (the 1 and done rule goes away for this one, so you get another class' worth of eligible prospects that can jump in).
3. You also could potentially do this, acquire a couple of picks and STILL have cap flexibility because these deals usually only require eating a year or two of a contract that costs half or even less than what CP3 does.
I'll say again though, I don't hate a CP3 trade. I just don't think there's a rush to do it when we have at least one more rebuilding year with or without him. Wait to gauge the trade market because even if the Thunder owners suddenly don't mind spending, there will be others that are desperate to avoid luxury tax payments while their arenas can't sell tickets.
storyteller
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There have been name drops of potential late first round and second round players, they just slip out of conversation quickly. I remember thinking the rumors we saw early seemed like the Knicks were gonna go BPA at 8 and then potentially target a Guard with the second first. Isaiah Joe and Cassius Stanley are the two names I'm positive came up but I also vaguely recall Grant Riller's name popping up too. I just don't think the rumor mill churns as heavy for pick 28 versus 8.
theres also the sneaky incentive that keeping CP3 in OKC makes one less team for us to compete with at the race to Cade.
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In the Athletic's latest top ten picks mock, the Knicks trade 8 and Bullock to the Suns for Oubre and 10. Suns take Haliburton at 8; Knicks take Vassell at 10. Toppin, Okoro and Hayes go 5, 6 and 7 while the front 4 is the same as usual.
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