Carter G. Hoodson
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Carter G. Hoodson
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In free agency, what about taking a look at Bogdanovic, M. Beasley, Wood, Crowder and Grant
I agree. BUT if the front office truly thinks that Okoro is the best prospect available by a considerable margin, then fukk it. Being terrible this year is better for us anyway. There are ways to get around poor spacing that can still facilitate development of the young guys as long as they play. We saw this with Mike Miller vs David Fizdale last season. You can still generate offense through cuts and we would have to play uptempo. We’d still be bad obviously but Okoro doesn’t HAVE to mean a throwaway season.
Peter Popoff
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The start of an identity is getting Van Vleet. You can build around him, RJ and Mitch.
i'm sold on RJ & Mitch.
i wanna see how Frank, Knox & DSJ develop under Thibs.
jokes aside, Frank can be a solid 6th man. he can play 1-2 and guard 1-3 (another reason why we should draft a PG). i think he'll thrive under Thibs given his defensive capability.
Knox had a rocky sophomore year but the fact that we hired Kentucky assistant Kenny Payne makes me believe the front office wants to give Kev another look.
DSJ is DSJ. the optimist in me hopes he can return at least half of what we lost in Porzingis but 15 ppg might be a stretch for junior.
at #8, Okoro sounds like the safe pick but i'm tired of playing it safe. defense is more teachable than offense. this draft is too suspect to not take risks.
we need to draft buckets.
Peter Popoff
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I 100% agree with everything you said. I also wouldn't gamble on an inefficient shooter in Okoro. I'd go for Kira and throw the bag and anything at FVV. Defense can be taught especially when you have RJ, Mitch and Frank. Knox has also been underrated defender towards the end of the season so I wanna give him, one more year to prove he's competitive now that Morris and Randle will no longer be stealing his minutes.
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My first moves of FA would be to try and get Beasley and Ingram on offer sheets. I'd price check Harris and Grant fast too. I'd keep an eye on Bogdan, Baynes, Wood and Dragic but they're not crucial additions; just guys i'd be looking at depending on how everything else falls out.
Peter Popoff
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I would love to have Ingram even if we had to trade Robinson but I don't see it being possible. We just don't have enough valuable assets and we must keep most of our picks.
Edit: Honestly, there are just so many ways to establishing an identity. I think first and foremost, we need at least 2 or 3 top talents to build off of or the 3rd can be a valuable role player. That 3rd is Mitch. The 2nd is RJ. The first is the player that we throw the bag at. Now we can interchange that 3rd in exchange with a pick. That's how I would look at it from a coaches perspective.
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the last parts interesting... you think it’s easier to go from being a bad defender to an average defender than it is to be a bad shooter to becoming an average shooter? I think i disagree. I think it’s easier to turn Okoro into a decent shooter than it is to turn Nesmith into a decent defender for instance.
Peter Popoff
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I agree that it is easier to implement defense than offense as well. Coaches design plays to work off of strengths and weaknesses especially with pick and roles.
If an opponent backs off of you and defends the top nucleus of the team, you don't need to be there. If a player is a great defender but the team is not pushing the pedal forward offensively, it's embarrassing.
The Knicks have been embarrassing offensively more than defensively.
DSJ is a prime example of bad defense >> bad offense.
Trey Burke was a bad defender but great on offense and look how he's doing.
We do need to put players on the team that fit with RJ and Mitch .
the Knicks defense has been worse than their offense there have been games where they just allow insane amounts of 3 . And their offense can’t get easy possessions do to the inability to get stops
100%. i think defense is more teachable than offense because of structure (help on the weak side) and rules (no hand checking).
on defense, you're reflecting who you're defending. there are pivotal moves you can make to force him to go left/right but ultimately, if whom you're guarding is a legit scorer, the best you can do is stay in front of him and put a hand in his face. you can only do so much and the game is designed in favor of offense. it's more entertaining (profitable) from a business standpoint.
dunks > blocks
i feel defense is more technical compared to scoring. easier to teach a zone than a Steph Curry stroke...
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Pass me the rock nikka
Hell no. We know a 6th Man is someone who can anchor a second unit and Frank is not even close to that
Frank at this point is a very low end back up guard and spot defender not no damn 6th Man
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Pass me the rock nikka
Nah, the Knicks offense is worse.
28th in offensive rating
23rd in defensive rating
If Frank and Mitch didn’t foul damn near 5 times per 36 and could stay on the court we would probably have a top 15ish defense
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