One Drop Rule: How Should We Define Being Black In America

JackRoss

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But even fully black looking people have had a nonblack person in their heritage thereby eliminating them from being black according to your rules.

I'm creole. So some French cac blood exists in my lineage. Thereby eliminating me from being "black" so what am I in your opinion?

Are you sure you have 100% African dna?

100% African DNA doesn't not equal black :mjtf:
 

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If I had a grandmother who was white I don't qualify. What about a great grandparent? What's the cutoff?

Does the cutoff point change depending on the last nonblack member of both families calculated together?
:lupe:
You didn’t answer my initial question, but let’s say joe Biden had a black ancestor can he join the black caucus? Or lead the naacp?
 

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You didn’t answer my initial question, but let’s say joe Biden had a black ancestor can he join the black caucus? Or lead the naacp?
I don't know honestly. I'm trying to figure out your guys opinion
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I rather have it explained by a well studied militant
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Race is determined by phenotype and how others see you that’s it.

Look black=black

look non-black = not black

Race has no scientific base if it did almost every African American would be labeled “mixed”

Kindly and concisely explain what 'look Black' means exactly..

People love to toss that around as if its some profound fact.
 

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The idea of what black is always included people that are genetically biracial.
It has never been a biracial class in America

That's because WHITE PEOPLE DICTATE THAT.
we had no say in the matter, that's white supremacy.


That's one of the blocks of white supremacy that's been torn down..:camby:
 

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I don't like the disingenuous nature of the conversation from darker skin Black Americans and Africans online about this because it is generally in bad faith.

It is a veiled resentment about and attack on lighter skinned Black people and biracials and the perceived and real associated advantages economically, psychologically, and socially of being lighter complexioned.

It is a lazy reckless form of colorism.
And it doesn't account for the disadvantages that non dark skin Black Americans also endure even if not to the same degree as darker skinned Black people. And even that is debatable in certain regards imo.

In America Blackness is also political identity with political and social consequences/outcomes not just a skin tone
 
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Tbh the white southern aristocracy wanted that buffer class so that they could breed with mixed race peoples to improve genes (look at quadroons and octoroons)
Never worked tho for the reason I just mentioned. They threw a wrench in their own cog
 

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No...I'm not so you just waisted time typing some shyt based on lack of comprehension.

I'm in america, I'm talking about African Americans, yes we have admixture of cac blood in the 10-30% range..just like Mexicans have admixture, east africans...ect.


Just cause we have CAC admixture doesnt mean every biracial should get pushed to the black box.
Infact most biracials in america are majority white due to our cac admixture most biracials are 60-70% white which is why you can mariah carey and megan markle looking biracials but you wanna call them black..:mjlol:

Like I said African Americans=asos were a people group, not a experience, not a racism test, were we have lineage, blood, ancestors who were slaves here for hundreds of years and if you dont have specific history on both sides meaning having 2 black parents you are not one of us

Yes they accepted biracials back in the day because we had too, we had no choice, most of them created via rape, and we raised them. Abd they put in work during civil right era.


But that day is not today, and shyt is different, everything changes. However AA's= asos IN AMERICA determines who is black.

Lets go mad slow

How do we get admixture

Without biracials?

I mean.

Like Obama. According to you he's not Black

But Michelle is?

So are Obamas kids Black?

If they are, how does a non Black

Obama

Make Black kids. And. His kids, being non Black - lets just roll with that for this thought experiment - cannot create Black people

But your model means that non Black people can somehow get folded back into the Black population to create future generations of Black people

Cause I would say MOST of us - African American ADOS FBA - are not 100% African. So MOST of us have non Black biracial ancestors. And actual white ancestors. Native American mixed in.

So if the convo about Obama being able to make Black children sounds like gibberish...

Its because it is.

But that's your "model" at work. But you never think that far.
 

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What percentage of African DNA should ados blacks have at the minimum?

:lupe:

I have no idea what they consider black in Africa. We don't go by percentages. You know this and I know this. Biracials identifying as black isn't something that we came up with as a minority in this country but it's something that stuck with as a country.

2 black parents is where I'm at. You're asking the wrong person these questions. Half black mother/ father and a white mother/ father isn't black. That person is just a product of the tainted one drop rule. 2 biracial parents doesn't make you black.
 

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Lets go mad slow

How do we get admixture

Without biracials?

I mean.

Like Obama. According to you he's not Black

But Michelle is?

So are Obamas kids Black?

If they are, how does a non Black

Obama

Make Black kids. And. His kids, being non Black - lets just roll with that for this thought experiment - cannot create Black people

But your model means that non Black people can somehow get folded back into the Black population to create future generations of Black people

Cause I would say MOST of us - African American ADOS FBA - are not 100% African. So MOST of us have non Black biracial ancestors. And actual white ancestors. Native American mixed in.

So if the convo about Obama being able to make Black children sounds like gibberish...

Its because it is.

But that's your "model" at work. But you never think that far.

100% African does not equal black.
 
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