My point is that it was harder for a full blooded Black person to be free compared to biracials.The parts that you bolded didn't disprove anything
there were free dark skinned blacks who were prosperous
and mixed race slaves who suffered in bondage
the slaves that YOU think had a better situation over field hands couldn't be any further from the truth. The mammy servant who was a house slave
had more restrictions than the field slave and was more at risk to be prayed on/raped by white men
that's exactly what happened to Sally Hemmings and also her "pure" african grandmother
One Drop Rule: How Should We Define Being Black In America
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IllmaticDelta
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obviously if you had genetic ties to your master it made it easier for him to grant you your freedom but overall what you said, held more weight in the deep south than it did in the upper south or the north
I get the point you're trying to make, but historically, we've always stuck together which is why our (ADOS/FBA) history and lineage is so unique not just in America, but the world.
This isn't like South Africa where the coloureds and Black South Africans don't see eye to eye. Some of the most down people in ADOS history were biracial/multi-racial and they saw themselves as Black.
Plus the natives were more white aligned here so them and their white admixed cousins are a more than good enough buffer class, than to allow ANYONE of african descent to climb up the racial hierarchy.
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Plus the natives were more white aligned here so them and their white admixed cousins are a more than good enough buffer class, than to allow ANYONE of african descent to climb up the racial hierarchy.
yup! I was going to get to this point being that the white/amerindian mix was the closest thing to a TRUE BUFFER CLASS, not afro-europeans
honestly it wasn't a crusade against biracials (even though I have seen many white washed ones) I was just saying that depending on the skin color and how they were raised they could either be white or viewed less harshly compared to blacks. I also don't see how people labelled biracial is a bad thing? I mean it's what the person is, now if the person is closer culturally to whatever race they are or have equal acknowledgment of both sides then it is what it is.
yup! I was going to get to this point being that the white/amerindian mix was the closest thing to a TRUE BUFFER CLASS, not afro-europeans
Plus the natives were more white aligned here so them and their white admixed cousins are a more than good enough buffer class, than to allow ANYONE of african descent to climb up the racial hierarchy.
how? when natives died at a faster rate and the few who were still alive were sent to reservations away from large installations of white folk? I felt like when white people assimilated into native tribes that was to subjugate them compared to having a racial hierarchy in the whole U.S.
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Whites introduced chattel slavery to them of black people and put their mixed blood off spring as the leaders
How Native Americans adopted slavery from white settlers
And how black people in Indian Territory were denied their rights even after their emancipation.
How Native Americans adopted slavery from white settlers
and gave them special privileges over black people
it was illegal for amerindians to be slaves which is why many afro-descendants tried to prove/claim they were Native or part Native to avoid slavery/blackcodes
Amerindians were also considered white aligned in the Jim Crow south as long as they weren't thought to have any negro blood
What is today the US was sparsely the population pre colonization in the first place. The native population was decimated by disease and miscegenation for the most part. But, today there are far more natives in the US than in pre columbian times bar none.
But, anyways like I said natives were far more white aligned here than anywhere else. Only the US has a "5 civilized tribes" that ran sovereign nations on the chattel enslavement of black people with the same slaves/black codes and all as the white southern states did.
Justice Taney who ruled on the Dred Scott decision even directly compared natives to black americans stating that they were free and sovereign people who could be elligible to be considered citizens while blacks were inferior people meant for subjugation thus not eligible for citizenship.
And not all natives were removed in the Trial of tears(where they brought their black SLAVES along with them in chains). Some remained in the east, but they had to give up their tribal sovereignity and adopt US citizenship.
The Mississippi Choctaw were in fact the first major non-white ethnicity to adoptain US citizenship.
Treaty of Dancing Rabbit Creek - Wikipedia
The Eastern Cherokee were granted the same option.
Treaty of New Echota - Wikipedia
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Were plain Indians I guess as c00nish as the 5 civilized tribesWhat is today the US was sparsely the population pre colonization in the first place. The native population was decimated by disease and miscegenation for the most part. But, today there are far more natives in the US than in pre columbian times bar none.
But, anyways like I said natives were far more white aligned here than anywhere else. Only the US has a "5 civilized tribes" that ran sovereign nations on the chattel enslavement of black people with the same slaves/black codes and all as the white southern states did.
Justice Taney who ruled on the Dred Scott decision even directly compared natives to black americans stating that they were free and sovereign people who could be elligible to be considered citizens while blacks were inferior people meant for subjugation thus not eligible for citizenship.
And not all natives were removed in the Trial of tears(where they brought their black SLAVES along with them in chains). Some remained in the east, but they had to give up their tribal sovereignity and adopt US citizenship.
The Mississippi Choctaw were in fact the first major non-white ethnicity to adoptain US citizenship.
Treaty of Dancing Rabbit Creek - Wikipedia
The Eastern Cherokee were granted the same option.
Treaty of New Echota - Wikipedia
As this you mean?
The 5 civilized tribes are some of the biggest white bootlickers in world history. So nah.
Western plains indians like the comanche still helped the 5CT in enslaving black folk though.
Black, White, and Indian
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I need to read more. Seeing how the natives took part in slavery shocked me.
The one drop rule is not and never was for biracial people with obvious African heritage but keep this up to build an exclusivity in the AA community (that I'm in) that was never there 
THIS is what the one drop rule was for though, a difference from a Halle Berry or a J Cole.
IllmaticDelta
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most of them types never came in contact with black people during slavery times