Open Court: Shaq Has A Problem With Steve Nash Being A MVP

[mrken12]

I said he got an extra MVP, he totally DID NOT DESERVE 2. But yall need to cut that inadequate in the playoffs shyt out. Yall acting like them nikkas was getting swept in the first round or some shyt.

2005 Loss WESTERN CONFERENCE FINALS - SPURS
2006 Loss WESTERN CONFERENCE FINALS - NO AMARE ALL SEASON!!!! - Mavericks
2007 Loss SECOND ROUND- SPURS

Dantonio was around for those three series.

I never said they got swept. But they still never made it to the Finals. You don't get props for almost making it.

 

[Jplaya2023]

I beleive Nash deserved the second one more than the 1st. He lost ISO joe, and amare mised 79 games and they still won 54 games. He turned boris diaw into a household name.

Him or Shaq should've won in 05, O'Neal turned miami around and made them a contender

Chris Paul was also robbed of MVP in 2008

 

[mbewane]

So let me get this straight. Kidd deserved it even though he was nowhere as good as Duncan, BUT KD didn't deserve it because he wasn't better than Lebron?

You're all over the place.

Context. There have been various MVPs given to players because they changed teams and made their new team contenders (Barkley, Nash) EVEN THOUGH those same years there were other players (Jordan, Kobe, Shaq) who were better than those who received the award. Using that logic Kidd def should've won one, especially considering Nash won TWO.

KD winning last year imo was just not to give again to Lebron, in the same vein as whoever else than MJ won in the Bulls championship years.

 

[Rakim Allah]

I beleive Nash deserved the second one more than the 1st. He lost ISO joe, and amare mised 79 games and they still won 54 games. He turned boris diaw into a household name.

Him or Shaq should've won in 05, O'Neal turned miami around and made them a contender

Chris Paul was also robbed of MVP in 2008

Yep Kobe took it from CP3 in that final game(matchup) to see who would get the #1 seed.

 

[RickyGQ]

It's hilarious that y'all are making the same exact arguments that I and a lot of other cats were making on SOHH back in 06. I believe at the time I was arguing that Steph could have done the same thing in that system.

 

[Jplaya2023]

Yep Kobe took it from CP3 in that final game(matchup) to see who would get the #1 seed.

what's so funny?

Imagine Tyson Chanlder getting hurt then next week you trade a bag of peanuts for tim duncan. That's essentially what happened with that OTHER team

 

[GreatestLaker]

Context. There have been various MVPs given to players because they changed teams and made their new team contenders (Barkley, Nash) EVEN THOUGH those same years there were other players (Jordan, Kobe, Shaq) who were better than those who received the award. Using that logic Kidd def should've won one, especially considering Nash won TWO.

KD winning last year imo was just not to give again to Lebron, in the same vein as whoever else than MJ won in the Bulls championship years.

That's dumb stupid logic. You put any great player on a team with reasonably good talent and the team will instantly get better. They should be rewarded with an MVP because they switched teams?

 

[tremonthustler1]

This topic again I see

 

[mbewane]

That's dumb stupid logic. You put any great player on a team with reasonably good talent and the team will instantly get better. They should be rewarded with an MVP because they switched teams?

Why breh? Don't blame me, blame the NBA, that's the logic they used when Barkley and Nash (1st year) won it.

 

[GreatestLaker]

Why breh? Don't blame me, blame the NBA, that's the logic they used when Barkley and Nash (1st year) won it.

And its a joke.

 

[Rakim Allah]

what's so funny?

Imagine Tyson Chanlder getting hurt then next week you trade a bag of peanuts for tim duncan. That's essentially what happened with that OTHER team

I agreed with you...CP3 was robbed on April 11th 2008.

Here's the box score to prove it
http://espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=280411013

Tyson played that fateful night CP3 was robbed(of the MVP) along with the Hornets of that #1 seed

Mano a Mano for the MVP and #1 seed.

 

[mbewane]

And its a joke.

No shyt breh. But that's not the point of this thread. If they used that shytty logic to have Barkley and Nash win it, then by that same exact logic Kidd should've won one too.

 

[RickyGQ]

The backdrop of Nash MVPs are they were given at a time where the racist sentiment towards black NBA players was at an all time high. Nash and the "he makes his teammates better" angle long with being a white dude made him the choice of writers to say he was worthy.

Fact. It then turned into a way to shyt on Kobe when they wanted to anoint Lebron early.

 

[RickyGQ]

I beleive Nash deserved the second one more than the 1st. He lost ISO joe, and amare mised 79 games and they still won 54 games. He turned boris diaw into a household name.

Him or Shaq should've won in 05, O'Neal turned miami around and made them a contender

Chris Paul was also robbed of MVP in 2008

Paul's numbers were actually as good or better in 08 than Nash's numbers during one of his MVP seasons. I remember bringing that up cause numbers were the biggest excuse people used for Nash winning. People swear it was "Nash haters" who had the issue when they were just pointing out how deliberate Nash's win was.

 

[Diddly Drogba]

KD winning last year imo was just not to give again to Lebron, in the same vein as whoever else than MJ won in the Bulls championship years.

just say the truth, this whole idea that kd didn't deserve it based on you knowing melo will never ever win one