Open Court: Shaq Has A Problem With Steve Nash Being A MVP

[Hersh]

if that suns team and the nets team from those years traded Kidd and Nash straight up ...what happens?

 

[Bars4TheCause]

Nash getting MVP in a league with Shaq, KG, Tim Duncan, Dirk, Wade, LeBron, etc is a joke. It'd be like if Blake Griffin won it this year.

 

[mbewane]

I do too nikka.


NBA: The Eight Most Controversial MVP Wins of All Time

The Winner should have been: Jason Kidd

Perhaps it was because voters felt that they snubbed Tim Duncan for MVP in 1999, or it was because Jason Kidd's arrest for spousal abuse in 2001 just biased them against him, but many believed that Tim Duncan did not deserve the MVP award in 2002.

Jason Kidd, despite his off the court issues, led the New Jersey Nets to one of the greatest turnarounds in league history in his first year with the Nets, as the team experienced turning a 26-win team into a 52-win team by basically adding Kidd.

Kidd's numbers were also special that year, as he averaged 14.7 ppg, 9.9 apg and 7.3 rpg. He also contributed many intangibles to the team as well, such as his defensive tenacity and his incredible will to win, eventually leading the Nets to its first ever trip to the finals.

Duncan, to be sure, had a great year. He averaged 25.5ppg, 12.7 rpg, and 2.5 bpg. However, these numbers aren't vastly different from his numbers the previous year when he averaged 22.2 ppg, 12.2 rpg and 2.2 bpg.

But if the measure of an MVP is leading one's team to regular season success, it was hard to make the case that Duncan did. His Spurs won 58 games, the same as they'd won the previous year. But at least in 2001 the Spurs were the conferences top seed. In 2002, they were only third.

Kidd should have won the award that year. He had all the ingredients to secure the award, except a clear public image.

Hey breh got a link? Not that I disagree, just wanna know who the others are...

Random MVP thoughts...

- Nash having TWO, meaning as much as Kobe and Shaq combined, is absolutely insane
- Kidd got robbed for sure
- D.Robinson for me is also a big MVP fraud, I don't remember his numbers being THAT better and he got annihilated by The Dream just like everyone knew he would
- Dirk in 06 is interesting, he got mocked for losing in the first round but proved during their title run that he was the real deal. Something, imo, that Robinson never did afterwards
- Pippen has a very very very serious case for winning in 94.
- I'm a big D.Rose stan but not convinced he deserved it that year.
- KD winning last year also doesn't really make sense to me, don't care about analytics but as much as I'm a hater no way was he/is he better than LeBron. I think everyone knows it, it was just last year and it seems no one ever even mentions it lol.

 

[Shadow King]

October 7th. This is part of an interesting topic they are discussing.

The Top 50 NBA players(that were chosen in 1996) plus the next 10

so who would they select as the next 10 to join the list

off the top I got

Duncan
Kobe
Lebron
Dirk
Garnett
Pierce
Dominque Wilkins
DWade
Nash
Allen Iverson

How was Nique not in 96 one?

Shaq and Kidd deserve to be on there.

 

[malbaker86]

Man Kidd took them boys to the NBA FINALS

them boys won like 26 games before that STOP IT.

The mvp is a REGULAR SEASOM AWARD!!

 

[The Goodz]

if that suns team and the nets team from those years traded Kidd and Nash straight up ...what happens?

I dont think there would be a huge dropoff honestly, they were similar and played the same style on their teams

 

[Wiirdo]

Just remember that before he went to Phx, Nash was a fringe all-star that Dallas let go so they could sign Eric Dampier. Just think about that. How many league MVPs get thrown out the door so their former team can sign Eric fukkin Dampier.

And what was Chauncey before Detroit?

 

[Alexander The Great]

How was Nique not in 96 one?

Shaq and Kidd deserve to be on there.

Shaq was already on the original one. And yeah Kidd might knock Nash off

 

[TooLazyToMakeUp1]

PLUS don't act like Shaq never played on suited up ass teams

And don't act like Shaq wasn't one of the most dominant players in tge history of the sport

People move goal posts when determining the criteria for the MVP. It's an individual award, and it should go for the best player in the league.

Fact is, Shaq should have less than anyone of his era

 

[Knights89]

How was Nique not in 96 one?

Shaq and Kidd deserve to be on there.

Shaq was included in the original 50

 

[OG Talk]

How many multiple MVP winners can yall name that have never made a Finals appearence?


Okay.. How many 1 time MVP winners can you name that never did?

 

[GreatestLaker]

Man Kidd took them boys to the NBA FINALS

them boys won like 26 games before that STOP IT.

Was Kidd a better player than Duncan?

Did Kidd have a bigger impact than Duncan?

No nikka, you STOP IT.

 

[GreatestLaker]

- Kidd got robbed for sure
- KD winning last year also doesn't really make sense to me, don't care about analytics but as much as I'm a hater no way was he/is he better than LeBron. I think everyone knows it, it was just last year and it seems no one ever even mentions it lol.

So let me get this straight. Kidd deserved it even though he was nowhere as good as Duncan, BUT KD didn't deserve it because he wasn't better than Lebron?

You're all over the place.

 

[Data-Hawk]

Haha. Just sent this to my brother with " this is exactly why they will never win a championship"

 

[GreatestLaker]

yall hating on nash because he's white, that's it, you need to get that hate out your heart.

let kobe take a 29 win team to 62 the next season and watch yall call him the greatest ever

You take Kobe off those mid-2000 Laker teams they barely win 15 games.