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every couple months, someone decide to rehash some big and pac shyt.

like clockwork, for 20 plus years :unimpressed:
Pac haters/Biggie Stans usually the ones that do it and start it and have the most energy for it. Pac fans ain't that bitter....Makaveli lives on through us and the music.
 

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Like I said before. nikkas on here is full of shyt. Callin people Pac “stans” and saying nikkas think he could do no wrong while simultaneously in this thread acting like Biggie did ZERO wrong and was an innocent lamb in this shyt. Ain’t nobody said Pac didn’t do things wrong. But he wasn’t the ONLY one. And the fact that his people are alive to tell the story they will continue to perpetuate that shyt and leave out key facts about this whole thing to keep that lie going. Only ones lying and being disingenuous is the people up and around Biggie. shyt atleast Gene Deal somewhat acknowledges where nikkas in Bad Boy fukked up at. He’s the one who confirmed the fact that Biggie was ignoring Pac’s calls from jail.
 

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Pac haters/Biggie Stans usually the ones that do it and start it and have the most energy for it. Pac fans ain't that bitter....Makaveli lives on through us and the music.
Of course Pac fans ain’t bitter...he’s the fukkin cause of what happened and they live in denial. Why be bitter? Just say it’s history, refuse to acknowledge the fact that the two biggest losses hip hop has seen are the result of his actions, and keep it moving.
 

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Of course Pac fans ain’t bitter...he’s the fukkin cause of what happened and they live in denial. Why be bitter? Just say it’s history, refuse to acknowledge the fact that the two biggest losses hip hop has seen are the result of his actions, and keep it moving.
You right, Pac asked to be shot, he asked for Who Shot Ya to be released while he was in jail. He asked for....nevermind. Logic is absent wherever hate is present :coffee:
 

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You right, Pac asked to be shot, he asked for Who Shot Ya to be released while he was in jail. He asked for....nevermind. Logic is absent wherever hate is present :coffee:
WTF are you talking about??? I’m not saying he is responsible for being shot. I’m saying he was wrong for blaming BIG. You do realize that allegation was the start of all the drama right? You were awake for that part right?? That in the moments before Pac got shot and made that accusation, he and BIG were homies right???

I concede that it was a poor decision by Bad Boy to release Whoshotya at that time. But at the end of the day, the real person behind it, Jimmy Henchman, told Pac he was behind it. Did Pac squash shyt with BIG then?

Nah.
 

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WTF are you talking about??? I’m not saying he is responsible for being shot. I’m saying he was wrong for blaming BIG. You do realize that allegation was the start of all the drama right? You were awake for that part right?? That in the moments before Pac got shot and made that accusation, he and BIG were homies right???

I concede that it was a poor decision by Bad Boy to release Whoshotya at that time. But at the end of the day, the real person behind it, Jimmy Henchman, told Pac he was behind it. Did Pac squash shyt with BIG then?

Nah.
Why would Pac squash shyt with someone he believed knew he was about to get robbed and did nothing to prevent it? That's not logical.
 

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i lived through that era, i've heard the same story over and over and mothaf*ckas putting their life on it swearing that Pac was a saint, Big did this, etc. Man, just imagine these kids today years from now talking about XXXTentacion or Pop Smoke's deaths and what lead to it, smh, let this story rest. They both gone, left their legacies and countless movies and documentaries have been made on it. I feel as if people are stuck in a time warp repeating that same day over and over again, this ain't even the day they died either, which makes it even funnier :snoop:

20 odd years later, it's over, let's preserve Nas and Jay who have overcome everything in hip hop including this. I'm a big Biggie fan as much as the best fan but even i had to let it go for my own well being. What could've been shouldn't even matter at this point. Chances are both of them probably would've gone on to executive roles or been at peace about the situation by now. :yeshrug:
 

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starts at 2:20. nikka been talking shyt about Pac for years nikka still mad like its 96. Was Clark Kent even there that night? He knew puff and bigs relationship with the nikkas extorting them?


Even if If wasnt true that's what Pac heard through the grapevine so technically it wadnt a lie he was misinformed.


:mjlol: do u even know how fukking stupid that sounds ....

... and ain’t nikkaz exposed you as being like 6 years old when this happen ??? :camby:
 

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Of course Pac fans ain’t bitter...he’s the fukkin cause of what happened and they live in denial. Why be bitter? Just say it’s history, refuse to acknowledge the fact that the two biggest losses hip hop has seen are the result of his actions, and keep it moving.

Ignore Puff's man wolf killing Suge man Jake
Ignore Henchman getting pac robbed and shot
ignore Puff releasing who shot ya after the quad to ride the controversy
Ignore Biggie not going to see pac or contacting him in prison
Ignore Biggie getting the dogg pound trailer shot up
Ignore Puff hiring the south side crips and putting a bounty on death row chains
Ignore Puff and Big going on a cali victory tour after Pac was killed

it was all Pac fault

:comeon:
 

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Ignore Puff's man wolf killing Suge man Jake
Ignore Henchman getting pac robbed and shot
ignore Puff releasing who shot ya after the quad to ride the controversy
Ignore Biggie not going to see pac or contacting him in prison
Ignore Biggie getting the dogg pound trailer shot up
Ignore Puff hiring the south side crips and putting a bounty on death row chains
Ignore Puff and Big going on a cali victory tour after Pac was killed

it was all Pac fault

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What happened with Jake has NOTHING to do with Pac. He wasn't even on Death Row then.

No I'm not ignoring what Henchman did. Thats the point. HENCHMAN DID IT. WHY YOU GOING AT BIG???

Releasing Whotshotya at that time was a bad move, I will not deny that. But it was NOT made for Pac.

BIG tried to see Pac in the hospital and was turned away. You forgot?

DPG trailer incident and death row chains came AFTER Pac lied. Yeah, we dealing with street dudes or dudes hangin with street dudes, so once that fire was lit by PACS LIE, yeah plenty of bullshyt is gonna come after, back and forth . The DPG trialer incident came from BIG getting on the radio, which he did because DPG did that NY, NY song.

You made up that "cali victory tour" crap.

I'm sure you are smart enough to comprehend what I mean when I say the "START" of the bullshyt was. The FIRST WRONG that was committed. And that was Pac's lie. Period.
 

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Why would Pac squash shyt with someone he believed knew he was about to get robbed and did nothing to prevent it? That's not logical.
Direct me to the evidence that BIG knew Pac was about to get robbed. Direct me to the evidence where BIG even knew that Pac was even going to be there that night. You know who did know? Jimmy Henchman.
 

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Why would Pac squash shyt with someone he believed knew he was about to get robbed and did nothing to prevent it? That's not logical.
That’s the lie there .... not 1 ov pacs own people believe this bullshyt ..... I asked zayd why pac went at big n he said himself biggie had nothing to do with it or “knew before hand “ and he was 100 x closer to the situation then u or any other Coli poster defending that lie ....and this is pacs in-law ....he himself said pac was angry , frustrated lashed out going off rumours and assumptions.... no proof at all .... add to that pac knew later down the line that biggie knew nothing before hand and he stil ran with that lie .... e money bags told pac to his face who it was why it was done and biggie had nothing to do with it.....
 
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