Papoose: Nas Greatness gets downplayed because....

[Ziggiy]

So "One Mic" isnt a hit? "Made U Look" isn't a hit? "I Can" never reached the top 15 on the charts?

Even barring that WHEN did hit singles become more important than a hit ALBUM

 

[Wild self]

Even barring that WHEN did hit singles become more important than a hit ALBUM

People moving goalposts and standards within the culture, before the cultre itself became compromised completely with strip club hits and clout chasing with demographics that don't like intelligent black men.

 

[spliz]

Like Max B aka Max BiggaVelli downplays on Nas not being a NY legend.

Max B said this?

 

[Wild self]

Max B said this?

He always bigged up Hov, Pac, and Big, but always left out Nas. That is not a coincidence, especially of you a fan of mid 90s rap. Its like talking about the NBA in the 90s and leave out MJ on purpose.

 

[ISO]

So "One Mic" isnt a hit? "Made U Look" isn't a hit? "I Can" never reached the top 15 on the charts?

U naming songs from the last time Nas had hits we talking post-2002

 

[Heavy_Handz]

Nas is an all-time great because the first half of his career he had some classic/very good work. These last 20 years ever since after Stillmatic I would say mostly misses. Most MC’s second half is noticeably weaker tho so it’s no huge knock on him. I just can’t put him in my top 5 all-time

 

[ISO]

What @Ziggiy is saying is that based on the criteria. Nas went plat with SD. Yall tryna use the fact that it was a double album. Which would be literally false and against their certification rules and standards. So. For whatever reason Nas was certified plat for SD. Using the fact that it was a double disc shouldn’t be the reason. And would render what ur saying as a lie. Even @ISO tried to use the double album shyt at one point now he’s saying it only shipped Plat. Which one is it? And if u got some inside info bro. Break it down for us how his album is certified platinum despite only selling 750k.

The album got Plat for shipping 1M copies.

As of its last available sales track in 2014, 10 years after its release the dual disc album had only moved 740,000 copies.
https://hiphopdx.com/news/id.28401/title.nas-album-sales-from-illmatic-to-life-is-good
Nas' Album Sales: From "Illmatic" To "Life Is Good"

 

[Devil Plisken…CMS]

So "One Mic" isnt a hit? "Made U Look" isn't a hit? "I Can" never reached the top 15 on the charts?

nikka I just told you rap changed up like 3-4 times from IWW through God's Son and he put out hits through those times so what makes anything post 03 so different? You guys that emotional where you can't comprehend?

 

[Awesome Wells]

Nas is an all-time great because the first half of his career he had some classic/very good work. These last 20 years ever since after Stillmatic I would say mostly misses. Most MC’s second half is noticeably weaker tho so it’s no huge knock on him. I just can’t put him in my top 5 all-time

This is true.

But it's one of those things that people don’t like hearing, lol. Nas is in my Top 10, but things definitely changed after Stillmatic. Before that, with the exception of a couple of weird tracks like "Dr. Knockboot", he had a pretty much untouchable God-level output and classics.

 

[ISO]

Even barring that WHEN did hit singles become more important than a hit ALBUM

Singles matter that’s what gives an album legs and that’s what ppl mostly consume.

What hit albums did he produce in that timeframe?

 

[Heavy_Handz]

This is true.

But it's one of those things that people don’t like hearing, lol. Nas is in my Top 10, but things definitely changed after Stillmatic. Before that, with the exception of a couple of weird tracks like "Dr. Knockboot", he had a pretty much untouchable God-level output and classics.

No doubt. It’s the emotional attachment for cats. I just call it how I hear it

 

[Chip Skylark]

1. No one downplays Nas though.
2. Yes a lot of people can’t rap on Nas level.
3. When mentioning the GOATs rather the greats. Nas name is always mentioned.

 

[Awesome Wells]

No doubt. It’s the emotional attachment for cats. I just call it how I hear it

They get hype! Very emotional about Nas.

And I get it, but it's about the music. I can be honest when my favorites fall off. Redman was my guy before he even dropped his first album, but when he fell off, I was honest about it. You could be a lifelong Nas fan too, but if you tell certain dudes that Nas fell off, they're ready to pop the trunk on you.

 

[Heavy_Handz]

They get hype! Very emotional about Nas.

And I get it, but it's about the music. I can be honest when my favorites fall off. Redman was my guy before he even dropped his first album, but when he fell off, I was honest about it. You could be a lifelong Nas fan too, but if you tell certain dudes that Nas fell off, they're ready to pop the trunk on you.

You have to be on top to ever fall off so if I say you’re not making good music anymore to my ears it’s not even disrespect. You can’t be on top forever. You’re right about Redman. Muddy Waters one of my favorite albums of all-time but I’d be lying big time if I told you I’m excited to hear Muddy Waters 2

 

[Bolzmark]

Nas is HOF status and that’s not up for debate. Personally he’s one of my Top 5.

Truth be told his biggest problem is whether he accepts it or not, he’s always competing against Illmatic.