Parity at it finest in the nfl

[FTBS]

A third of your schedule is significant, breh

Plus the fact that your're then paired against similar comp when y'all are matched with two other divisions (one in each conference)


shyt, why stop at divisions in leagues? The best athletes, period, should compete in the Olympics...fukk all this winning your country/region shyt

It's significant but not more significant than the entire season. If you win 10 games against NFL competition you had a better season than a team that won 7 or 8 no matter grouping you happen to be in.

You're killing me with central....NORTH

I'm old school

 

[mastermind]

Handling your business is winning your division. if you can't win your own division don't be crying about what another teams record is.

then lets just have the 8 division winners make the playoffs.

The reason I'm saying that is you have teams with easier schedules with more wins than teams with harder schedules, but if fewer wins b/c of a hard schedule still wins your division, then it is what it is. Honestly, I could see doing away with divisions, but until that happens, the systems is fine IMO, schedules are not the same (even within the division....look at Sea having NO at home vs SF having to go to NO...the season is too short to create true parity where everyone has the same chance to prove themselves against the same competition). Face value records don't hold the same weight in the NFL, so the easiest way to control for this is the division setup.

But the NFC East isnt a harder division, just like the NFC West wasnt a harder division back in 2010.

Man miss me with these dumb ass questions. The point of the playoffs is to determine the league champion for that year. It's not about "rewarding" teams.

and the point that you refuse to acknowledge is that the BEST regular season teams make the playoffs to determine the champion. If it was just to determine a champion, we could legitimately randomize it and have someone pick 12 teams out of a hat and have that be the playoffs.

Americans would watch it too and have no qualms since we watch anything that says NFL on it.

 

[FTBS]

This was addressed again for the third time, an hour ago.

You would still be bytching if the nfc east and north team had tied records with the cardinals.

You'd still be complaining if the cardinals had the same record as the #6th seed. Your argument would just extend to "there should be more playoff spots!!!

Give it up.

I clearly stated that their shouldn't be more playoff spots an hour ago so save the strawman shyt.

If the teams are tied then that's one thing. My only issue is teams with inferior records getting in.

 

[Maschine_Man]

It's significant but not more significant than the entire season. If you win 10 games against NFL competition you had a better season than a team that won 7 or 8 no matter grouping you happen to be in.






I'm old school

LOL.
you just don't get it.

if a team can't win their own division, then they don't deserve to be guaranteed a playoff spot.

they just have to hope that their body of work throughout the season gives them a second chance to do what they should have done

 

[who_better_than_me]

You add more postseason teams and the nfl playoffs start to lose some of it prestige. I don't want that. And whoever said get rid of conference and division is on that crack. Divisional rivalry is what make the nfl special.

 

[R.E.N. Spells Ren]

and the point that you refuse to acknowledge is that the BEST regular season teams make the playoffs to determine the champion. If it was just to determine a champion, we could legitimately randomize it and have someone pick 12 teams out of a hat and have that be the playoffs.

No, dummy, you refuse to accept that it's determined by the division champions, and then the best of the rest.


Picking teams out of a hat

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

But the NFC East isnt a harder division, just like the NFC West wasnt a harder division back in 2010.

I said strength of schedule, NFC east had to play AFC and NFC west who are both good divisions right now, harder road to victory. IMO if y'all ant to start taking best record point blank, it's my opinion that the next argument is who did you actually play. I don't think the NFL has the proper scheduling to just go off records. And again, this only becomes an issue in years there are clear anomalies. Division winners simply aren't a problem to me

 

[FTBS]

but everyone else in your same division plays the same record

for example

the NFC west will play the NFC East teams - 6 games
then play all the teams from the AFC west - 4 games
then all the teams from another NFC division - 4 games
then two other teams from the other two NFC divisions that finished in the same place that you did last year.



so when you add that all up, its only fair to crown the division champion because every team in the division plays pretty much the same record and gives each one of those teams the fairest chance to win the division and get a playoff berth.


so because the NFC West got to play the AFC South this year they were allowed to stack up wins against teams like Jacksonville, Tennessee, and Houston.....
thats 3 easy wins this year. Indy was tough, but not a great team
they also got to play against the NFC South with easy games in Atlanta and tampabay, and they only beat carolina early before they went on a streak

whereas the NFC East had to play the AFC West against the Cheifs, Broncos and Chargers all teams that are playing well




you guys don't see it...but its fine the way it is.win your division and you are in the playoffs. HANDLE YOUR BUSINESS and you are in

What's wrong with handling your business ie being amongst the 6 best teams record wise in your conference or top 12 overall if you wanna go all the way with it? You aren't playing the exact same schedule. You got home/road splits. You got injuries. You got teams being hot/cold at different times. All kinds of shyt makes the schedule different. Everybody is playing NFL competition each and every week though. Everybody is playing a team that can beat them every week. You come out of that with more wins and you have proven yourself.

 

[FTBS]

LOL.
you just don't get it.

if a team can't win their own division, then they don't deserve to be guaranteed a playoff spot.

they just have to hope that their body of work throughout the season gives them a second chance to do what they should have done

Every team that wins a division doesn't deserve a guaranteed spot.

 

[Maschine_Man]

Every team that wins a division doesn't deserve a guaranteed spot.

yes they do.


why can't you understand that?

your first line of business in the year is to win your division. if you do that then you have a chance to win the conference, then the league

its a tier system.


why is that so hard to acknowledge?

 

[mastermind]

No, dummy, you refuse to accept that it's determined by the division champions, and then the best of the rest.


Picking teams out of a hat

yeah, pick teams out of a hat. We can determine champions that way since thats all that matters.

And what I am saying is that if a team is clearly not one of the 6 best teams in the conference, then they shouldnt be in the playoffs. I think that is unfair.

I said strength of schedule, NFC east had to play AFC and NFC west who are both good divisions right now, harder road to victory. IMO if y'all ant to start taking best record point blank, it's my opinion that the next argument is who did you actually play. I don't think the NFL has the proper scheduling to just go off records. And again, this only becomes an issue in years there are clear anomalies. Division winners simply aren't a problem to me

And the Cardinals are in the NFC West as well, and had took on Carolina and New Orleans.

I just believe it should be 6 best records in the conference.

 

[mastermind]

what is the logical reason why a team that wins its division should make teh playoffs?

 

[FTBS]

yes they do.


why can't you understand that?

your first line of business in the year is to win your division. if you do that then you have a chance to win the conference, then the league

its a tier system.


why is that so hard to acknowledge?

Because every division is not equal. What is so hard to understand about this? The system that you describe takes for granted that all divisions are the same and that just isn't the case. Some divisions have 2 elite teams while some divisions have none. Some divisions have 4 okay teams. Some have 1 good team and 3 sucky teams. Where you happen to be grouped should not guarantee you anything. It should be all about what you earn during the season. There is no way you can tell me that a team that won 7, 8, 9 games some how earned a spot over a team that won 10, 11 games purely because nobody else in their grouping was good enough to win as many games as them while the 10, 11 win team happened to be grouped with a 12 win team.

 

[wire28]

no

get the fukk out of here with that bullshyt

stop trying to incorporate the rules of other leagues with the nfl

you can't change the concept of the playoffs without changing the concept of scheduling…and nobody but you and @FTBS want that to happen

go take your Obama "change we can believe in" shyt to the NCAA

 

[Maschine_Man]

what is the logical reason why a team that wins its division should make teh playoffs?

then eliminate all divisions period.
have every team play every team in their own conference and the top 6 teams in the conference advance to the playoffs.