Pat Riley: " No More Smiling Faces With Hidden Agendas."

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If anything Riley fukked off any chance of Lebron staying with the Heat when he had that press conference. In some ways that was similar to the letter Money Dan sent. Lebron isn't going to let another man talk to him like a child. He's always done what he thinks is best for his career and family, and he's been 100% right each time. Look at the heights Lebron has reached by trusting his own decisions.
 

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Dude...I said yall gave privilege. Yall focus on "right" and "wrong" is pure bullshyt in today's business world. Miami showed a contract that he honored. How is loyalty involved in that? :mindblown:

Dudes coming in here with their industrial age business thinking. Act like you live in 2015....not 1981.
They put themselves in a position to sign all 3 to max money years before it happened. Is that something else you want to gloss over?

What did LeBron gain by pulling a quick move like that once again in 2014? The only reason he got away with it this time is because he played the "I'm coming home" game...he would have went anywhere else and they would have eaten him alive in the media.
 

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They put themselves in a position to sign all 3 to max money years before it happened. Is that something else you want to gloss over?

What did LeBron gain by pulling a quick move like that once again in 2014?

Lebron didn't take a paycut now? He didn't play his part?
 

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If anything Riley fukked off any chance of Lebron staying with the Heat when he had that press conference. In some ways that was similar to the letter Money Dan sent. Lebron isn't going to let another man talk to him like a child. He's always done what he thinks is best for his career and family, and he's been 100% right each time. Look at the heights Lebron has reached by trusting his own decisions.
yea thats true, he left cleveland to win championships and he did that in Miami.

lol @ the bolded tho. Did Gilbert ever publicly apologize for emasculating LeBron or was that what they discussed at the meeting when they made up? how we all say things we dont mean sometimes :heh:
 

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Lebron didn't take a paycut now? He didn't play his part?
LeBron had no choice BUT to take a paycut, he wanted to play with Wade and Bosh. Taking a paycut was the only way it could have been done with all 3 making big money. That's an NBA issue, not a Miami heat issue. If Miami had an uncapped situation like in the MLB we might have very well seen all 3 sign to absolute max deals.

The Miami Heat put themselves in a position to give LeBron what he wanted...and in the end he couldn't even give an appropriate notice before his departure. He was wrong, point blank. If you can just admit that much you might be able to think about this in terms of someone in a position of power instead of looking at LeBron as a possible victim (which he never was).
 

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Cutthroat?

Really?

What did Lebron do that was cut throat...... He fulfilled his contractual obligation... the end.... so not wanting to discuss business affairs at friends weddings = cutthroat business practices now?

Yall are being silly

I consider the act of going out for nine, everything else be damned to be cutthroat. That specific action you described isn't cutthroat, but the overall mentality some of you seem to applaud of feeling no sense of commoncourtesy isn't too far off as far as I'm concerned :manny:
 

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I consider the act of going out for nine, everything else be damned to be cutthroat. That specific action you described isn't cutthroat, but the overall mentality some of you seem to applaud of feeling no sense of commoncourtesy isn't too far off as far as I'm concerned :manny:

Where is the common courtesy when organizations trade a player without any notice??

Or is that just the nature of the business?
 

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I've been on record, I think LeBron has some bytch ass tendencies. I dont know that he's a bytch personally but he's got some hoe tendencies. I dont see how that's a debate.."James later told friends that having to share the same room with Heat president Pat Riley was uncomfortable that night." What kind of man feels uncomfortable being the in the same room as a man 30 years your senior? That said he exercised his right as a free agent to do whatever he wanted. Riley exercising his right to say whatever he wants. He's more than paid his dues to the game he can do that. We appreciate LeBron's contributions as a Heat player and that chapter is done. Heat will be back

1. I take all gossip with a grain of salt. We have no idea what he told his friends. Windhorst/ESPN pulled that quote to add to the storyline (becuz finding Bron related drama is his entire job). He couldve have said "it was a little uncomfortable but whatever" or "Riley was staring at me and humming The Godfather theme song so I was uncomfortable"...we don't know. Windhorst's

2. Most men would be uncomfortable in a room with a dude they have an issue with. Thats the definition of an "issue". Doesn't mean he's afraid to fight Pat Riley or Pat Riley ran him out of the party so I'm not sure what his age has to do with it

3. A lot of athletes (rappers, teachers, construction workers) are lame. We all pick and choose when to let it slide. Myself included
 

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Where is the common courtesy when organizations trade a player without any notice??

Or is that just the nature of the business?
Niqqas are talking about the nature of business from my parents era. Thats why I don't even bother talking to my folk when moving on from a job. They're looking at it from the years when businesses took care of their people.

Dudes talking about yesterday's business nature and think they're making points.

I don't get it. I'm the old head in here praising young cats for working in the manner business today while dudes want to stick their heads to a past where courtesy existed.

:childplease:

Rip Van Winkle ass niqqas.
 

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Ummm...he had a choice of teams to play for.

That extra money was there. He took a paycut. Don't diminish it with all this flim flam.
What other NBA team did what the Miami Heat did to allow for that ideal situation? They had 48 MILLION available to be able to pull this off. The Bulls were 2nd with about $38 million if I remember correctly and the Knicks had 33 million available. They all knew they were going to have to take a paycut, this was all understood.

Riley and the crew were the ONLY ones who were able to pull this off and you continue to push over that fact like LeBron had options to hit up 10-20 owners like "Yeah, we all want to play here...so let's do this".

His only real option was Miami in 2010
 

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What other NBA team did what the Miami Heat did to allow for that ideal situation? They had 48 MILLION available to be able to pull this off. The Bulls were 2nd with about $38 million if I remember correctly and the Knicks had 33 million available. They all knew they were going to have to take a paycut, this was all understood.

Riley and the crew were the ONLY ones who were able to pull this off and you continue to push over that fact like LeBron had options to hit up 10-20 owners like "Yeah, we all want to play here...so let's do this".

His only real option was Miami in 2010

His only option was Miami?

I was talking about money....now he only had Miami as a choice.


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You really live in NYC working where we work and expect some "good guying" in business?

Dog...one of the reasons I took my current job is that in the 15+ years I've been working this is the first employer I've seen give their workers 90 days advance warning that they're offshoring their work to India.
15 years bro...after living through this. and seeing the big wigs leave with a golden parachute as they let us go. but I'm supposed to "expect" something different?

Man please. Where have you BEEN?

Like I said, I have a romanticized view of how business should operate. One shouldn't expect kindness, but to expect the opposite, or for the opposite to be the standard is unfortunate. :manny:
 

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Niqqas are talking about the nature of business from my parents era. Thats why I don't even bother talking to my folk when moving on from a job. They're looking at it from the years when businesses took care of their people.

Dudes talking about yesterday's business nature and think they're making points.

I don't get it. I'm the old head in here praising young cats for working in the manner business today while dudes want to stick their heads to a past where courtesy existed.

:childplease:

Rip Van Winkle ass niqqas.


I's crazy that dudes are so emotional when it comes to LeBron that they are completely missing the point.....It's the nature of the business in today's world on both sides of the spectrum...
 

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Niqqas are talking about the nature of business from my parents era. Thats why I don't even bother talking to my folk when moving on from a job. They're looking at it from the years when businesses took care of their people.

Dudes talking about yesterday's business nature and think they're making points.

I don't get it. I'm the old head in here praising young cats for working in the manner business today while dudes want to stick their heads to a past where courtesy existed.

:childplease:

Rip Van Winkle ass niqqas.
Nobody is saying that LeBron was not free to do whatever he wants :mjlol:

You are clearly going to continue to spin and we will eventually go back to a racial discussion here so I will leave you all at it.
 
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