You're right about this.
Arenas was definitely meant for this era. He would be a much better player in today's NBA.
Penny Hardaway is the most talented PG of all-time...
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You're right about this.
Arenas was definitely meant for this era. He would be a much better player in today's NBA.
You think people who back up views with evidence are "cacs" and "never played"
What's next?
A "mothers basement" reference?
You guys always hit the same stupid stereotypes whenever you're challenged by being asked to provide something more than anecdotes.
Penny was a little overrated, he was a good player but he was never going to be much more than he was in my opinion.
Even before he got hurt he turned into a just above average player as the talent around him started to dry up.
He was athletic and he showed flashes, but he isn't he was never more than a taller Jason Kidd with athleticism.
Even before he got hurt he turned into a just above average player as the talent around him started to dry up.
He was athletic and he showed flashes, but he isn't he was never more than a taller Jason Kidd with athleticism.
Luc Mbah a Moute was hurt with a separated shoulder remember? He was as good as PJ Tucker but more athletic. Otherwise Rockets 4-2, with or w/o Iggy
The following year a worse Rockets team (no Ariza, no Luc, no Iso Joe, a hurt/flabby CP3) had it tied 2-2, deadlocked in the 3rd quarter before KD got hurt.
2018 was clearly CP3's year to win it all and he was putting together a masterpiece before his injury-prone history caught up with him.
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Kyrie and Chris Paul are more talented than Penny.
Penny had height, but height isnt a skill and he was a bit weak/fragile for his height. Wasnt nearly the defender Chris Paul is and Chris paul runs an offense a lil bit better than Penny. Not the handles or shot maker Kyrie is but he definitely ran an offense better than Kyrie. Only shot the three at 32% during the shortened line years 94-97. He has a great demeanor and smooth game for sure though. Definitely one of the great "what if's" of basketball.
And @Swagnificent, lets be real here, he was only seen as a threat to the Bulls because Shaq was there
Penny had height, but height isnt a skill and he was a bit weak/fragile for his height. Wasnt nearly the defender Chris Paul is and Chris paul runs an offense a lil bit better than Penny. Not the handles or shot maker Kyrie is but he definitely ran an offense better than Kyrie. Only shot the three at 32% during the shortened line years 94-97. He has a great demeanor and smooth game for sure though. Definitely one of the great "what if's" of basketball.
And @Swagnificent, lets be real here, he was only seen as a threat to the Bulls because Shaq was there
No. I call you cacs cause only a crakkka would think he knows better than black basketball players when it comes to topics related to their profession.
Who are you to tell Shaq and Horry who the toughest team they ever faced was? And who are you to tell Andre Igoudala that Kobe wasn't the toughest player he ever guarded?
My eye test usually is right there with what the players say. Your "evidence" rarely is. I'd say in sports the closer you are to what the guys who are having the experience first hand are saying the more right you are.
Anecdotes.
The same as Jordan saying the toughest player he faced was Mitch Richmond.
These views belong in the trash. Along with 80% of all eye test arguments.
Mitch Richmond was a great SG and there weren't many great SGs during Jordan's era. Who was he supposed to say? Other than Drexler I'm not seeing how that take is questionable. You can't expect Jordan to name guys he didn't guard like bigs or Magic/Bird.
Once again only a cac would have the audacity to question the opinions of a black man in his field of expertise. That is the embodiment of white priviledge. Thinking that as an average white male you know better than the best black man to ever play the game.
FTR lots of other players used to say Mitch Richmond was their toughest matchup. Dude was strong as hell and pretty skilled. Its not that crazy that Jordan named him over Clyde.
When you cannot back up arguments with evidence, you resort to racist insults.
Typical.
In what other walk of life do people with zero intimate knowledge of a craft disparage the opinions of those practicing the craft at its highest level?
Do you think you understand medicine better than board certified doctors? Or how about civil procedure laws better than experienced trial lawyers?
It seems to me that it is only in black dominated fields that whites feel the need to totally neglect the expertise of those in that field. Sorry white boy but saying Michael Jordan knows more about basketball than you or me ain't "racial insults". Its the truth.
If a doctor sat here and told me that dealing with ear wax build up was tougher than removing a brain tumor, yes, I would disparage that doctor's opinions. I don't give a shyt what his resume says.
Anyone claiming Mitch Richmond was the toughest NBA player they ever faced clearly is not evaluating players on the right level. Then again, that expertise led him to draft Frank Kaminsky...so there's that