People who are against controls on illegal immigration are either idiots or Hispanics

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The fact that you are illegally present on U.S. soil is a crime itself. That makes you a criminal. You may not be a violent criminal or a degenerate, but you being here without authorization is a crime. Same as walking across the border is a crime, whether you’re claiming “asylum” or not. That doesn’t mean that they’re bad people, but they are still breaking the law regardless. Would be nice if I could just show up to Japan and stay as long as I feel like.

It’s a recipe for disaster because of the lack of resources. Housing, money, benefits, medical care, employment. They lower wages because they will work for less. There’s only so many housekeepers and service jobs. Those jobs are not infinite.

What happens when a fraction of these millions people that are coming are unable to provide for themselves? They’ll be homeless migrant camps all over, not just in El Paso. We already have enough Americans that are homeless and struggling. We don’t need unskilled foreigners coming here too.

As far as the skilled ones, why not train more Americans and give them those coding and tech jobs, as opposed to Asian immigrants?

Every country has immigration laws and border restrictions. Go and try to move to Norway or one of those socialist Scandinavian countries. It’s not happening, unless you have a highly sought skill and can greatly benefit their society. They have their own people to feed and provide for, and that’s how we need to be too.

I do understand it is a crime. As an immigrant I might be biased.
America is a huge place with much opportunities.

The question to be asked is
ARE JOBS REALLY LIMITED?
you know 20 million people will not flood into the country

are housekeeper and service jobs LIMITED?

what are the numbers?
farms with fruits
farms with livestocks

does America have a shortage or limited jobs?

I agree witht the training of folks in coding.

we dealing with facts here
is there a shortage of jobs?
 

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Temporary visa babble

raised by dirt road low educated inbred lowest class of wite people in the world babble

yes or no
are the wite people you surrounded by disgusting demonic creatures?
not the liberal nice n decent types

klan member hellspawn methheads?
 

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You fled your homeland to live with these same crackas :jbhmm:

Are you not asking folks to flee liberal states to come where you are?
because the crackas got you under pressure?

are you not surrounded IN YOUR IMMEDIATE vicinity by klansmen?
serious question
 

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Reagan is the one that started this flood from South of the Boarder.

Reagan and the Republicans were anti-Worker Union and Pro-Big Business.

They knew this would undermind the wages of the American citizens.

Cheap labor and maximize profits.
Next they'll flood the country with thousands of immigrants to drive down white collar job salaries. At my last two companies the amount of foreign IT workers is probably triple that of Americans. Even the IT Management is foreign born now.

If you haven't made your money in IT at this point and are ready to cash out. You might be screwed if Biden passes some kind of immigration reform to increase visas and green cards. Damn near all the entry level IT jobs are going overseas now. Companies only need a handful of experienced American IT workers who understand the Business mostly. All the other IT roles are being outsourced to Asia, South America and Eastern Europe.
 

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I’m advocating for Black Americans to return to the south and gain control.

Please explain how that would occur?
not saying it is a bad plan

you surrounded by as I said
THE WORST WITE PEOPLE IN THE WORLD
the most low class hateful wites ever

and folks should come there and do what now?
tell me the plan
 

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Next they'll flood the country with thousands of immigrants to drive down white collar job salaries. At my last two companies the amount of foreign IT workers is probably triple that of Americans. Even the IT Management is foreign born now.

If you haven't made your money in IT at this point and are ready to cash out. You might be screwed if Biden passes some kind of immigration reform to increase visas and green cards. Damn near all the entry level IT jobs are going overseas now. Companies only need a handful of experienced American IT workers who understand the Business mostly. All the other IT roles are being outsourced to Asia, South America and Eastern Europe.

This as well is going on with DFW IT jobs.

They have flooded DFW IT jobs with people from India that will work for less wages than local native IT workers.
 

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I do understand it is a crime. As an immigrant I might be biased.
America is a huge place with much opportunities.

The question to be asked is
ARE JOBS REALLY LIMITED?
you know 20 million people will not flood into the country

are housekeeper and service jobs LIMITED?

what are the numbers?
farms with fruits
farms with livestocks

does America have a shortage or limited jobs?

I agree witht the training of folks in coding.

we dealing with facts here
is there a shortage of jobs?
This is what i want to know. landwise we are one of largest countries in the world. and yet have nowhere near the highest populations. States in the flyover parts of the countries are largely rural and low populated. seems like we have plenty of room for more people. Not really worried about competition for jobs because we live in a capitlist society, job market is already a competition. doesn't seem like its as big a deal as people make it out to be.
I understand white people are concerned because they want to maintain are majority.
 

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This is what i want to know. landwise we are one of largest countries in the world. and yet have nowhere near the highest populations. States in the flyover parts of the countries are largely rural and low populated. seems like we have plenty of room for more people. Not really worried about competition for jobs because we live in a capitlist society, job market is already a competition. doesn't seem like its as big a deal as people make it out to be.
I understand white people are concerned because they want to maintain are majority.

We have to really check our biases.
For example I am an immigrant. When Obama was deporting guys for what I called "simple" stuff.
I had to eventually say, yes those who stood on corners selling weed or driving drunk fukd up.

It seemed like he was doing a bit too much, yet when you a guest, especially unwanted, you act accordingly

which is why I am asking for numbers.
Do we have a limited jobs.
As you point to, the country is so large.

If they say, yes there are limited jobs, housing, opportunities. I can understand.
That more so points to other issues like Nafta etc.
 

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This as well is going on with DFW IT jobs.

They have flooded DFW IT jobs with people from India that will work for less wages than local native IT workers.
I've had to switch jobs twice in the last 2 years after ending up as one of the only Americans on the team. At one company it's was me on the East Coast and a white dude on the West Coast. Damn near everyone else in IT was in Europe or Asia. My Boss would fly over for a few months out of the year on visa. Mostly to mess around like he's on vacation. All these foreign born IT workers stay on code with each other I'll give them that.
 

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I knew this Mexican back in the day that worked at Comcast I paid him 100 and he gave me a modem and free internet and he’d come turn it back on if they turned the service off. He had a homie that could get free electricity before they went to the digital meters so fukk what you talkin about as long as they got the hookups like that they can keep bringing they asses over here
:russ:Breh you know you got the hookup for free cable before the Mexicans. We all got a cousin that work at Comcast.
 

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Ramp deportations up to Obama era numbers and fine companies that exploit visa overstays.

Do you think if every single american job that could be outsourced would be?
I think so

how do you stop that from happening if possible?

beyond that you will have Artificial Intelligence and Robots doing many things
a car manufacturer needs less people right now
machines do a lot

shall we deport Artificial Intelligence and Robots?
 

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Do you think if every single american job that could be outsourced would be?
I think so

how do you stop that from happening if possible?

beyond that you will have Artificial Intelligence and Robots doing many things
a car manufacturer needs less people right now
machines do a lot

shall we deport Artificial Intelligence and Robots?


Deport illegal immigrants
Put restrictions on AI
Make smart trade deals
 
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