Pete Rock Likes Twitter User-‘Only Nas would make 5 LP w/ The Least Inspired Producer of All Time" Tweet

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Its alot of ways

it can be a street classic (Faneto)
it can be a moment (god did)
it can be commercial (the motto)
it can be political (bigger Picture)
it can be a bad song (crank that)
it can be a great song (dreams by game)


im sorry over the last 20 years Nas don’t have a record that fit this criteria

:mjlol: at you trying to squeeze that one in. Nobody outside Jay stans could quote two bars from that off the top of their head
 

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Exactly. And watch this: the mere mention of old head producers and its ‘Eww boom bap :scust:

Meanwhile Hit is recycling the same sample flips as a dirty old BOOM BAP 9th Wonder. For the premiere song on the album at that

Hit in 2023:



9th in 2006:



And that’s just off the ear no Metacritic needed


It's "modern" when Hit Boy does it but we're stuck in the 90's and want everything to sound like Illmatic for wanting to hear the producers who make the type of beats the other guy mimics :mjlol:

They were just shytting on 9th when someone did they wouldn't mind him working with Nas:wow:

I remember them attacking anyone who said they wanted Nas to work with Primo and when word got out that Premier was on Magic the same people were "OMG Nas and Premier finally classic incoming:gladbron:" but then we found out it was only scratches. Bottom line is they're gonna stan whatever Nas does. If we get the Premier album let's see if they're still talking about being stuck in the 90's or if they change their tune.
 

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Last piece of meat im gonna throw on this bbq for now:

The highs on HHID are > M2.

Which makes sense cuz Nas was in his prime back then. But it’s also probably because of the diversity of producers too.

I’m tempted to revisit SD, Gods Son & Untitled and compare all of the ‘bad beats and gimmicks’ albums against the Hit Boy stuff.



Edit: Pete should produce some joints for Kelis. That’s how you get back at your ex.

I'd say the last 3 not counting the bonus are better than anything on HHID, and I loved Hold Down the Block.
 

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:wtf: @ first bold. Dude was producing for Dougie Fresh and biz markee before Nas. Uh, yea, he’s ‘ours’.

@ 2nd bold, those people probably didn’t know No ID produced some of the best songs in LIG (with salaam producing the others). No ID made Stay bruh :scust: :mjcry: but cats needed 4:44 to want Nas to work with him ?!? Who you talkin music wit bruh…. The man made Stay










HE MADE STAY :damn:

But he's also produced a lot of music that "purists" shunned and criticized him for. Am I lying? A lot of those same purists dismissed him when he was all over God's Son and Street's Disciple and he was even getting bashed for the songs that he didn't even do.

I wasn't the one bashing No I.D. so I don't know why you feel the need to repeat that he produced "Stay". The people in the thread I'm referencing know what he brought to Life Is Good, but when Nas announced that No I.D. was going to producing songs on the follow up, they cried foul.
 

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Yep, 100%. These people are not hip hop heads like that, they're just Nas fans. For them, all music is painted through the lens of what it means to Nas. They have no idea what they're talking about because they don't even pay attention to hip hop like that. They have no context to draw from.

I already dismantled @Ziggiy's entire argument to the point where he had no rebuttal, and he just picked right on up repeating the bullshyt talking points that have already been disproven. These are not sincere people. They are here to present their twisted version of reality and that's it. Even when their lies and contradictions are pointed out they're not going to admit they were wrong, because for them the truth doesn't matter, they just want to be right. It's agent behavior.

I've seen Nas stans disrespect Pete Rock, Premier, Alchemist, and Madlib. All four are far superior than Hit Boy. They got beats 20 years old that he can't surpass. Madlib and Al have recent beats/albums he can't surpass. They wouldn't know because they didn't listen to them.

They were so tried of having to defend Nas' beat selection that now that he has some consistently decent production they want to hold on to what they got and not let go. It's obsessive.
 

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And of course people are going to stan whatever Nas does. They are STANS. What are ypu expecting? Expecting otherwise makes you the stupid person, not the stans.

It's NAS'S music and his vision. The fact that a lot of you think he would make better music with your favorite producers makes you sound like entitled brats. Like, how do you not see that.
 

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I've seen Nas stans disrespect Pete Rock, Premier, Alchemist, and Madlib. All four are far superior than Hit Boy. They got beats 20 years old that he can't surpass. Madlib and Al have recent beats/albums he can't surpass. They wouldn't know because they didn't listen to them.

They were so tried of having to defend Nas' beat selection that now that he has some consistently decent production they want to hold on to what they got and not let go. It's obsessive.

It doesn't matter that they are superior to Hit Boy. It's Nas fans who like the music he's making with Hit Boy. There is absolutely nothing you could present here that makes an argument that Nas could be making superior music with all these producers ya'll naming. It's an exercise in futility.
 

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And further more, we got people on a forum basically saying Nas would be making better music with other producers as if he reads this and is going to take the suggestion into consideration. As said before, he's obviously been inspired to basically live in the studio because of Hit Boy. If he decides to lock in with other producers, it doesn't guarantee it'll be who some fans want it to be.
 

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I've seen Nas stans disrespect Pete Rock, Premier, Alchemist, and Madlib. All four are far superior than Hit Boy. They got beats 20 years old that he can't surpass. Madlib and Al have recent beats/albums he can't surpass. They wouldn't know because they didn't listen to them.

They were so tried of having to defend Nas' beat selection that now that he has some consistently decent production they want to hold on to what they got and not let go. It's obsessive.

I don’t want to hear a Nas Premo or Pete Rock track in 2023, Madlib and Alchemist are a different story.
 

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Last piece of meat of gonna throw on this bbq for now:

The highs on HHID are > M2.

Which makes sense cuz Nas was in his prime back then. But it’s also probably because of the diversity of producers too.

I’m tempted to revisit SD, Gods Son & Untitled and compare all of the ‘bad beats and gimmicks’ albums against the Hit Boy stuff.
I'd say the last 3 not counting the bonus are better than anything on HHID, and I loved Hold Down the Block.
hold down the block, let there be light & scant forget about you are top tier
 

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Its alot of ways

it can be a street classic (Faneto)
it can be a moment (god did)
it can be commercial (the motto)
it can be political (bigger Picture)
it can be a bad song (crank that)
it can be a great song (dreams by game)
It can be plat
it can went wood
the shyt just to have impact on in some form where people are talking about it outside the fanbase

im sorry over the last 20 years Nas don’t have a record that fit this criteria. Idk what happen but the general public don’t care

I can respect your opinion..
But how does a rapper survive for 30 years overall and to your point the last 20...revered by his fellow rappers and an icon in the culture..sells out tours... just sold out the garden. ..ties Jay for number 1 albums if noone is listening or don't care?
 

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Last piece of meat of gonna throw on this bbq for now:

The highs on HHID are > M2.

Which makes sense cuz Nas was in his prime back then. But it’s also probably because of the diversity of producers too.

I’m tempted to revisit SD, Gods Son & Untitled and compare all of the ‘bad beats and gimmicks’ albums against the Hit Boy stuff.

hold down the block, let there be light & scant forget about you are top tier
I never hear people mention You Can't Kill Me. Might be my favorite joint from HHID
 

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I can respect your opinion..
But how does a rapper survive for 30 years overall and to your point the last 20...revered by his fellow rappers and an icon in the culture..sells out tours... just sold out the garden. ..ties Jay for number 1 albums if noone is listening or don't care?
jay z hate is a Nas stan lifeblood

it why everytime Nas drop Jay z name is mentioned. Without that hate to fuel Nas he would been done. 20 years and 10 albums and nothing land are u fukking kidding me? nas ain’t a no name. U would think by accident a single worked or an album cut had traction. But nope nothing. Nas living off his past accolades and jay z hate
 
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