Phil's Drunk Messin' With The Association Save Again: Knicks 2015-2016 Tryout / Off Season Thread

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Monroe seems like a perfect fit next to KP imo. Good rebounder, post up player and a natural C who needs a PF that has both range and shotblocking to compliment his game. Monta Ellis I want no parts of. West I'd consider as a stop gap player and locker room presence/mentor while we bring KP along but not a long term addition.

He is bad on defense, and playing the 5 with Melo at the 4 would lead to the Knicks having a horrible interior defense. I would rather have Biyombo at the 5.
 

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bro thats what im saying.


@Malta are you a knicks fan? if not shut up. fukk you :salute: is that nikka
:whoa:

IF they aren't coming into troll, I don't see why it's a problem.

I mean, I don't want someone in here just shooting everything down a& saying we suck but...
 

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Breh,
Monroe's max would be 15 mill right?

@#SOG_soldier Sorry about my mistake on Aminu's position.

@Hammer The team "suck dikk though & be a 35 win team."

We can't create a contender. Creating a playoff team is going to require Gasol or LMA, who we aren't going to get. We don't have a draft pick. What other option is there but to build the best team possible with the most sound financial outlook?

What suggestion do you have?
i hope we can get Conley. please if marc leaves conley will too next offseason :francis:


we should sign west and danny green. maybe biyombo. no greg unless its less than 10 :yeshrug:
 
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Now who else wanna fukk with Hollywood Court?
Why would he more than likely be a C off the bench? He's not allowed to play PF off the bench? I don't get your logic on that. Again, at 20 mpg he'd match Dirk Nowitzki's rookie year and Manu Ginobili's rookie year minutes and both were older than him. Just to add to that, Bargnani played 25 per game and was still a bust, but Vucevic played 16 mpg as a rookie and has steadily developed into a quality player since. Their development has to do with how the teams train them and their own mentality a lot more than simple minutes on the floor.

As far as thinking about how he affects Melo, you have it backwards. How does playing in the starting line-up affect Kristaps...because Melo's the obvious first option and we're actively targeting wings and bigs, which means he's not the second option either...possibly not even the third option. What can that potentially do for his confidence if you push him into a role to defer? He's not gonna hurt Melo, Melo will get his regardless.

He has a tweener body. His biggest weaknesses come from strength problems in the post and on the block at both ends of the court. He can get away with playing PF minutes but expect to watch him get abused against the bigger, stronger front courts in the league until he packs on more weight and core strength.

He's more likely to play the 5 off the bench because the Knicks don't have the money to get a quality starting big and a quality big off the bench, which would leave Kristaps in the position to play minutes at the 5 if he's not starting. The Knicks lack depth, center is the hardest position to find in the league.

Dirk started half the games that year and was playing almost 30mpg to close out the strike shortened season. Vucevic isn't an international player like the guys we're naming, he played 3 years at USC :wtf: Again, I have more examples of foreign players getting a lot of minutes early and being successful, you named Bargnani to me naming Dirk, Parker, Ibaka and Giannis, shyt we can even take it to Yao too. I mean even the Jazz threw Exum into the fire last year and he clearly wasn't ready for it but it helps build confidence and lets them know exactly what it is they need to work on. I wouldn't give two shyts how he affects Melo, his development would be my priority considering I passed on Hezonja, Mudiay, Winslow etc.


Kristaps isn't ready to be a second or third option, but he should be playing with the starters, you have a 7'2-7'3" PF that is mobile, if you sign Greg Monroe he should be playing with him as the weakside defender just off the fact he's mobile as hell for his size and needs to learn how to defend. Also, Nerlens & Anthony Davis were both under 230lbs for their rookie seasons, you can get away with him being your starting PF as long as you have a center. There aren't that many physically imposing frontcourts in the NBA right now.
 

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He is bad on defense, and playing the 5 with Melo at the 4 would lead to the Knicks having a horrible interior defense. I would rather have Biyombo at the 5.

You just said build the team around KP's development. If we're building for KP, I suspect he's developing into the 4 position where he's a perfect compliment for Monroe and vice versa.
 

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i hope we can get Conley. please if marc leaves conley will too next offseason :francis:


we should sign west and danny green. maybe biyombo. no greg unless its less than 10 :yeshrug:

Marc is pretty much a lock to stay in Memphis. I really hope we can make a play for Conley next summer, but I know that's a pipe dream.
 
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