Pistons to trade Drummond to Celtics?

[ill_will82]

I mean hey Andre is putting in double-double #'s every night and is a rebounding machine. Dude had games where he was doing 20/20+ last year and he may have taken a step back this year but he's still young. If Stan gone trade Andre the Pistons need to get some value back for him and not the garbage on paper trades from Boston or Toronto.

 

[ill_will82]

they lost to Detroit cuz Wade got injured

I forgot about that. Thanks.

 

[WMG the 2nd]

I'm a keep it real I don't think SVG needs to be coaching anymore. I remember the Heat team he coached in '05 (w/Shaq & DWade) that lost to the Pistons in the ECF in 7 games. The next year SVG got the boot. Fast forward to 2009 SVG coaches the Magic to the Finals with a prime D12 they get slapped in 5 by Kobe & Co. SVG gets fired a couple of seasons later. SVG is signed as president of basketball operations & HC of the Pistons about 2-3 yrs ago. He has to clean up the moves Joe D made before seeing any progress. The following year Pistons make the playoffs for the first time in 7 yrs get slapped by the Cavs in a competitive sweep series.

I have no clue wtf SVG is doing with the Pistons this year as they are in the same spot they were last year an 8th seed playoff team struggling to stay near .500, Pistons have regressed. I think some of it is a 50/50 situation. Some of it is on SVG and some of it is on the players (Reggie).

To be fair Dwight in Orlando proved it was him since he on his fourth team for a supposedly all time great defensive big and all star talent
Shaq hated Stan van gundy practice but was okay with pat rileys practices cause Riley had rings already

I think Reggie Jackson is getting hurt was the gamble Stan made considering he won on every trade and deal and signing so far. Reggie was supposed to be he key to making it all work and was a borderline all star last year and now he can't finish games

I'm thinking Stan wants a pg that can pick and roll with Drummond and guard heir man and make three but is young enough to grow with this core and that price is at an all mighty high

Brooklyn wants a pick for anything and Jeremy Lin would be a good grab but he's not ever going to be better then he was a few years ago

Payton on Orlando is a bust, Jennings is too old, derrick rose is damaged goods, holiday is set in New Orleans, mudiay isn't good enough, what player can we get to plug and dump Reggie for right now or the draft we can realistically grab after we swindled Orlando for Harris, the suns for Marcus Morris, the thunder for Reggie, and signed Jon leur/boban/ish smith for cheap deals?

 

[ill_will82]

Man i don't know. Joe did win a ship but man he dropped the ball several times
1. Darko. 2. Charlie V. 3. Ben Gordon. 4. Josh smith. 5. Trading billups.

Give Stan more time and he'll end up being worse

When Bill Davidson died Joe's hands became tied because Davidson's wife was trying to find a buyer of the Pistons. Joe was a shyt GM when it came to drafting players. The Pistons could have pulled either Wade or Melo at the time and he drafts an unknown 7 footer. The Billups/A.I. trade pissed me off because I still thought the Pistons could had made one last push to get to the Finals. The problems with the Pistons at that time was simply coaching. When Larry Brown left the bottom start to fall apart with Flip as coach because he thought putting emphasis on offense over defense was gone work out East and every year the Pistons was getting booted out of the ECF.

 

[dh86]

When Bill Davidson died Joe's hands became tied because Davidson's wife was trying to find a buyer of the Pistons. Joe was a shyt GM when it came to drafting players. The Pistons could have pulled either Wade or Melo at the time and he drafts an unknown 7 footer. The Billups/A.I. trade pissed me off because I still thought the Pistons could had made one last push to get to the Finals. The problems with the Pistons at that time was simply coaching. When Larry Brown left the bottom start to fall apart with Flip as coach because he thought putting emphasis on offense over defense was gone work out East and every year the Pistons was getting booted out of the ECF.

Joe blamed Karen for him not doing anything to improve the roster and going over 2 years without making a trade but she signed off on Ben Gordon and Charlie V so...

 

[ill_will82]

To be fair Dwight in Orlando proved it was him since he on his fourth team for a supposedly all time great defensive big and all star talent
Shaq hated Stan van gundy practice but was okay with pat rileys practices cause Riley had rings already

I think Reggie Jackson is getting hurt was the gamble Stan made considering he won on every trade and deal and signing so far. Reggie was supposed to be he key to making it all work and was a borderline all star last year and now he can't finish games

I'm thinking Stan wants a pg that can pick and roll with Drummond and guard heir man and make three but is young enough to grow with this core and that price is at an all mighty high

Brooklyn wants a pick for anything and Jeremy Lin would be a good grab but he's not ever going to be better then he was a few years ago

Payton on Orlando is a bust, Jennings is too old, derrick rose is damaged goods, holiday is set in New Orleans, mudiay isn't good enough, what player can we get to plug and dump Reggie for right now or the draft we can realistically grab after we swindled Orlando for Harris, the suns for Marcus Morris, the thunder for Reggie, and signed Jon leur/boban/ish smith for cheap deals?

Tell you the truth I didn't like when Stan made the deal to get Reggie because he had Jennings at the same time and they both basically played the same game. Reggie can't finish games probably because of them knees. I know the last game the Pistons played he was limping near the end of the game. Also, he missed 2 months because of knee problems. A guard with bad knees? A guard that really doesn't help the ball rotate in the offense? Not a good look. I think if RJ gets traded SVG might just have to finish out the season with Ish starting which is not a bad thing... Ish >>> Reggie

 

[wire28]

I don't think we make a move with Boston. At least I hope not. That Brooklyn first would be nice but it would mean we are in a complete rebuild.

We ain't winning shyt with Drummond. Might as well sell high. He's peaked defensively. Not much growth left offensively. Free throws trash so liability late in games. Sell high.

 

[WMG the 2nd]

We ain't winning shyt with Drummond. Might as well sell high. He's peaked defensively. Not much growth left offensively. Free throws trash so liability late in games. Sell high.

I don't think he's peak defensively he just has no motivation
It's like he saw his team mates weren't getting much better by themselves so he regresses

 

[Brandsdale]

Nah we need him on the Celtics,hes the only guy left in the league who bites on Val's pumpfakes....

 

[Brandsdale]

I was looking to see if he can rise past a 15 pt ceiling and it looks like he wont progress past it. Give us someone that is more mobile in the paint and at least can make close-to basket jumpshot

 

[duckbutta]

Andre Drummond has the sort of talent and potential that would tell you trading him is a bad idea, but he hasn't lived up to expectations in quite awhile. He's essentially an elite rebounder and not much else. This could be good for Detroit depending on what they can get for him. He or RJ have to go.

He's 23 :baldhuh:

I mean...was he supposed to have the Pistons as a 4 seed by now:baldhuh:

What is going on in this thread :baldhuh:

Are all of these people in this thread SVG aliases :baldhuh:

Who...on...earth...makes a 23 year old big man who already has a handful of 20 and 20 games available for any reason at all :baldhuh:

Pistons coaching staff and player development looking funny in the light here if they are serious about trading drummond cause he hasn't played well this year..

Every nba player isn't Kawhi Leonard or Jimmy Butler where they fukking jump a super saiyan level every off season...most players have a year or two in their early development when they flatten out or take a step back...

 

[WMG the 2nd]

He's 23 :baldhuh:

I mean...was he supposed to have the Pistons as a 4 seed by now:baldhuh:

What is going on in this thread :baldhuh:

Are all of these people in this thread SVG aliases :baldhuh:

Who...on...earth...makes a 23 year old big man who already has a handful of 20 and 20 games available for any reason at all :baldhuh:

Pistons coaching staff and player development looking funny in the light here if they are serious about trading drummond cause he hasn't played well this year..

Every nba player isn't Kawhi Leonard or Jimmy Butler where they fukking jump a super saiyan level every off season...most players have a year or two in their early development when they flatten out or take a step back...

Everyone gets put on the block unless your Lebron or Michael Jordan or Tim Duncan
Kobe almost was in Chicago and Detroit
Tony Parker was almost traded for Jason Kidd
Cousins just got moved
If he pelicans had continued to suck and Davis wanted out he's even gone and he's 4 x the player Drummond is

It's all about where you are and where you see yourself being in the next year or two with any player and team combo and contracts help dictate whether you make moves

If Drummond really is dwight 2.0 without the Howard ability why not sell while his value is high versus say three years down the line he's still what he is now and Karl towns and porzingas and whatever new rookies pass him up

 

[duckbutta]

Everyone gets put on the block unless your Lebron or Michael Jordan or Tim Duncan
Kobe almost was in Chicago and Detroit
Tony Parker was almost traded for Jason Kidd
Cousins just got moved
If he pelicans had continued to suck and Davis wanted out he's even gone and he's 4 x the player Drummond is

It's all about where you are and where you see yourself being in the next year or two with any player and team combo and contracts help dictate whether you make moves

If Drummond really is dwight 2.0 without the Howard ability why not sell while his value is high versus say three years down the line he's still what he is now and Karl towns and porzingas and whatever new rookies pass him up

I just don't get why he is available in the first place...cause he is having a bad year? He is 23...23 year old players have bad years...

You want to revisit next year and he still playing like this then it becomes more viable...but pulling the plug on 23 year old centers cause they had a bad first half of a season? That strikes me as outlandish...

Isn't this the first year of his new contract to? You extend a guy to 20+ million a year and then before the first year is up you try to see what you can get for him?

 

[manyfaces]

trading drummond is beyond stupid

how many legit centers in the league has his size and athleticism? he might struggle on d now but he has all the tools to be a monster on defense with his length, strength, hops, and mobility



svg is ass if he can't turn that into a perrenial dpoy candidate

The physical tools are there for him to be a beast. This nikkas defensive iq is low though. You don't see the highlights of him being late as hell on defensive rotations are getting lost in traffic on screens. He makes plenty of bonehead plays on d.

I just don't get why he is available in the first place...cause he is having a bad year? He is 23...23 year old players have bad years...

You want to revisit next year and he still playing like this then it becomes more viable...but pulling the plug on 23 year old centers cause they had a bad first half of a season? That strikes me as outlandish...

Isn't this the first year of his new contract to? You extend a guy to 20+ million a year and then before the first year is up you try to see what you can get for him?

I'm with you on riding it out with him, but i honestly think this is overreaction to some inquiries. While he is a talent, he's not so much so that you don't even entertain the odds of hearing what a team is offering. I don't think anything will even come if these rumors, because pretty much every trade under SVG's regime had pretty much come out of nowhere. There wasn't all this pre trade rumor mongering. This may be a ploy to get Drum motivated since he does sleepwalk through some games.

Reggie is the one i think may be on the table, but even that talk i take with a grain of salt since clearly him being injured is pretty evident. If the front office believes tendinitis is going to be an ongoing problem then sure, deal him now. If they think it's something he can come back from then hold on to him, because his value is shyt right now anyway. Reggie at last year's form we would probably like a 4 seed. Right now he can't beat anyone of the dribble. Still needs to cut down his usage with other guys getting better though.

 

[bigrodthe1]

I just don't get why he is available in the first place...cause he is having a bad year? He is 23...23 year old players have bad years...

You want to revisit next year and he still playing like this then it becomes more viable...but pulling the plug on 23 year old centers cause they had a bad first half of a season? That strikes me as outlandish...

Isn't this the first year of his new contract to? You extend a guy to 20+ million a year and then before the first year is up you try to see what you can get for him?

The problem is that they run wayyyyyy too many plays through him
And they know he isn't going to develop ANY post game and Stan knows what he went through in a similar situation with Dwight. Dre needs to be getting NOTHING but hustle points and he too lazy for that. One of them has to go