Police sergeant fired for having a Confederate flag in front of her house

[George's Dilemma]

This is the first amendment in its entirety.

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

Point to where any of that bullshyt you just said is located.


A lady lost her Marriage licence government job because she did not want to print a license with two men marrying because it was against her religious beliefs. Guess what, that what, she lost her job, and there was nothing illegal about her firing (she was later reinstated). You should remember this event, it was a big one.

If you guys are interested in a debate, come with facts

There was nothing illegal about her losing her job.

She lost her job because she wouldn't do her job. This isn't the same situation.

 

[ridedolo]

That's not a good reason to fire someone. I don't agree with the flag but still. I understand it may hint to racial bias its just not a strong enough case though.

lol i think being from canada its hard for u to grasp the racial dynamic here.

 

[Mowgli]

Adios Race Soldier

 

[Biblical Goon]

compare the pan african flag to the confederate flag brehs...

 

[Oceanicpuppy]

lol i think being from canada its hard for u to grasp the racial dynamic here.

Not from Canada. From Atlanta. I understand the racial dynamic but its not enough to fire someone. It's not capping for her it's just looking at the facts.

 

[Benjamin Sisko]

Have lawyers file subpoena to have all her arrest records reviewed

 

[David_TheMan]

Have lawyers file subpoena to have all her arrest records reviewed

Article I read said her record is full of commendations.
2014 she had a written reprimand for failing to respond to a call or something like that, and that is it.

 

[ridedolo]

Not from Canada. From Atlanta. I understand the racial dynamic but its not enough to fire someone. It's not capping for her it's just looking at the facts.

i mean you're in here arguing in her favor. so after seeing her wave this flag, are you comfortable with her policing black people? are you really upset that she's fired?

 

[Oceanicpuppy]

i mean you're in here arguing in her favor. so after seeing her wave this flag, are you comfortable with her policing black people? are you really upset that she's fired?

If she hasn't shown a pattern of racial discrimation in her actual job what grounds do they really have to terminate her?

 

[Bawon Samedi]

Wait... Are you seriously saying this is not a good reason for her to get fired!????

 

[ridedolo]

If she hasn't shown a pattern of racial discrimation in her actual job what grounds do they really have to terminate her?

damn my people are lost when blacks are fighting for a confederate flag waving police womans job

its amazing how many black people cape for those who would rather them with a noose around their necks.

 

[Oceanicpuppy]

@ridedolo i am just thinking about black people in this situation. If they are allowed to do this for a white woman just think of the unfair termination with black people. I feel like this is free reign to go ham on pro black police officers.

 

[Gold]

She lost her job because she wouldn't do her job. This isn't the same situation.

Agreed, not apples to apples

Its that section that says "or abridging the freedom of speech" You know what I specifically said.
The lady in Kentucy lost her job because she did not fulfill her job. She was not stopped from exercising her religion, she was removed from her job because she would not fulfill her duties of the job.

That completely seperate, exercise of religion, argument, than the freedom of speech argument that this woman in georgia has.

She isn't arguing about religion stopping her from doing her job, this isn't job performance related.

This is purely her having a confederate flag in her yard and being fired by her local government agency, and they are going to have very real 1st amendment problems upholding the firing.

Agreed that my example was a bad one, and you're right that she can definitely make a wrongful dismissal hearing, but I just don't think it will be so ironclad.

In the wake of South Carolina removing the confederate flag from all public grounds, the argument against her will be that this will negatively affect her ability to do her job san bias and prejudice.
It seems like she doesn't have any personal professed beliefs that people have documented (which I guess is @Canadadry's point) but I personally do not see her being reinstated on the strength of the 1st amendment

 

[Oceanicpuppy]

damn my people are lost when blacks are fighting for a confederate flag waving police womans job

its amazing how many black people cape for those who would rather them with a noose around their necks.

It's about upholding laws. If they are not upholding laws for cacs thats when you need to get scared.Becuase our black asses aren't even getting half of that.

 

[Gold]

If she hasn't shown a pattern of racial discrimation in her actual job what grounds do they really have to terminate her?

The appearance of bias and prejudice.
As the article states, the person who reported her claimed that her car was squad car was parked at the residence at the same time the flag was flying.

This is per the article, and I tend to lean this same way.

There has already been an investigation so I assume there is more information than we are privy to