“Pookie and ray rays shouldn’t exist” -Dr. Umar how can they actually be eliminated tho?

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You mean us?

I get what you’re saying, but what don’t people understand about everybody makes their own choices? You can be dirt poor, never had shyt, abused your whole life, etc etc but that still doesn’t make a person be a piece of shyt. So many of us come from similar conditions but live very good lives because we worked hard to get out of those conditions.

There is clearly way more to it than pointing the finger, saying it’s this or that persons fault for “making those conditions”.
This is The Coli. Any notion that black people are capable of improving ourselves through our own efforts is considered bootstrap babble. We can never be held accountable for anything, or make bad choices in life. And when we do the wrong thing, it’s the white man’s fault.
 

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One of the characteristics of a “Pookie and Ray Ray” is that they are reckless with their seed and do not take care of the children they helped create.

By proxy then Umar should not exist. He does not take care of or even see his children

Umar got kids? :ohhh:
 

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All these dudes are all bark, no bite. They been pondering the killing of "Pookie and Ray Ray" for decades and nothing has happened. :coffee:

A community police force that we all contribute to and helped fund would be a great idea, but that requires self-sacrifice and our community has a problem with that.
I concur. Black men and women would have to sacrifice. And not just the men, friend.
 

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You start trying to kill someone, they will try to kill you or their family members will get back at you. Now you just entered what would be labeled as, "another era of gang violence"/"Black on Black crime".

You'll never get rid of pookies and ray rays. The only thing that can be done is as @TheKongoEmpire said, "increase education and employment rates". And to add onto that, link up with like-minded Black folk and do your best to ostracize those that engage in negative/nonconstructive behaviors.

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This is The Coli. Any notion that black people are capable of improving ourselves through our own efforts is considered bootstrap babble. We can never be held accountable for anything, or make bad choices in life. And when we do the wrong thing, it’s the white man’s fault.
In American history, Black men have been the only group that has had to constantly bootstrap. Unfortunately, no one is going to save us but us. Black males are held accountable for damn near everything. The Black man has been the most held accountable group for things we have done and blamed for sh!t we have not done. Under the system of white supremacy, it ultimately always leads back to the “white man”. But they aren’t going do anything to fix what they intentionally broke. The last thing they want is competing economically viable Black communities. Black men AND women are going have to sacrifice and find a way to work together. John Hernying your way through white supremacy may work for few individual Black men but it won’t work for the collective of Black Americans, friend.
 

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You start trying to kill someone, they will try to kill you or their family members will get back at you. Now you just entered what would be labeled as, "another era of gang violence"/"Black on Black crime".

You'll never get rid of pookies and ray rays. The only thing that can be done is as @TheKongoEmpire said, "increase education and employment rates". And to add onto that, link up with like-minded Black folk and do your best to ostracize those that engage in negative/nonconstructive behaviors.

:manny:
Stop giving them immortality is a start, friend.
:manny:
 

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You start trying to kill someone, they will try to kill you or their family members will get back at you. Now you just entered what would be labeled as, "another era of gang violence"/"Black on Black crime".

You'll never get rid of pookies and ray rays. The only thing that can be done is as @TheKongoEmpire said, "increase education and employment rates". And to add onto that, link up with like-minded Black folk and do your best to ostracize those that engage in negative/nonconstructive behaviors.

:manny:
The bolded is a fact and is actually wholly unnecessary. Also, extremely damaging to black psyche if we really entertained such a thing.

As for the second bolded, can not emphasize that enough. I would go as far as to say anyone with opportunity and access should get themselves away from perpetually disadvantaged people and solidify the more educated and productive black enclaves. My theory being if you have enough idiots around, you collectively bring down the productivity of a people. Bring enough like minded, productive, and ingenious people to one area and what can you have?

As long as there are olive branches to those who grew up in poor circumstances, there is always a way to uplift ones self with other's help. By now I think we see what happens when a few well-meaning people stay behind in shytty places trying to make a difference. It either works on a very micro level, or not at all, or ends with well-meaning people being victimized. This is also one of the reasons for reparations of sorts as me "staying in my community" does nothing if I can't bring some serious investment, and no, beauty salons and chicken joints don't create wealth. I mention that last example because my neighborhood cycles through those two things regularly and in my 35 years on this earth, as far as I know, the neighborhood has ALWAYS been shyt.
 

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Idk if

Idk if it’s entirely related to poverty. Some pookies got money but still act like a damn fool…boosie, nba young boy, king von, ja morant… to me it’s more of a cultural thing.

Ja morant is a gah damn pookie. Zion Williams got pookie tendencies

Hell umar got pookie behaviors with him having two b*stard kids, one with a stripper
I agree that it’s a cultural thing. Our community glamorizes everything that no community should if they want their community to be successful. Obviously a paradigm shift is needed, but I don’t think that there will ever be one. If a person tries to elevate himself, they look at that as selling out. I’m 43 years old. It’s been that way since I was a little girl. I would love to say that it won’t be that way in another 43 years but it seems to be getting worse in our community. It would be great if reading and literacy, along with education, pride, and dignity, was at the forefront of our aspirations as a community. Alas, it’s all about superficial shyt and being looked at as a “gangster”.
ETA: I take that back. I actually wasn’t like that when I was younger. You had music that was positive, and the black community really sought to be successful and continue to climb upward. We had pride in ourselves. The start of it came when rap music became popular. Yeah, I said it!
 

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All due respect to you and your family, but that doesn’t mean anything.

People get into new relationships and become “inspired” by their new partner all the time. Doesn’t mean the change in attitude is actually going to last.


Well for one, quit coddling these little b*stards.

Black men need to stop making excuses for them and comparing our criminal element to that of other races. We will never have a perfect utopia, but just because other races of people have criminal cultures doesn’t mean we should be protecting ours.

Black men need to also stop taking queues on how to navigate through society from criminals as well.

Quit imitating their fashion, lingo, culture, etc. and actually giving them a voice in our community.

An example of what I mean is how brehs on here will quote and reference pimps when talking about relationships. :heh:

I won’t front, when I was in college I was fascinated with pimp culture but as a grown ass man in the real world I’ve grown out of that.

You shouldn’t be glamorizing certain lifestyles past a certain age.

Black women need to stop fukking these men and providing them with shelter. They need to stop making excuses for their offspring when they fukk up and let them face the consequences of their actions.

Degenerate black men should be the new “lames” and “squares”. They should be pariahs and unwelcome wherever they go until they change their ways.
This right here!!!!!!!!I see why you were poster of the year. Damnit, now I want some Burger King. A whopper,mmmm
 

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Umar got kids? :ohhh:
Yup. Dude is a whole deadbeat. Created two single mothers. Is chronically behind on child support and is always getting hauled into court for it.

It’s all public record. He has admitted that he does not even see his kids. He goes across the country lecturing parents on how to raise their kids and said he wants to teach black boys but he does not take care of his own kids. Smh
 
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In American history, Black men have been the only group that has had to constantly bootstrap. Unfortunately, no one is going to save us but us. Black males are held accountable for damn near everything. The Black man has been the most held accountable group for things we have done and blamed for sh!t we have not done. Under the system of white supremacy, it ultimately always leads back to the “white man”. But they aren’t going do anything to fix what they intentionally broke. The last thing they want is competing economically viable Black communities. Black men AND women are going have to sacrifice and find a way to work together. John Hernying your way through white supremacy may work for few individual Black men but it won’t work for the collective of Black Americans, friend.

Stop making excuses, for degenerate behavior.
 

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I agree that it’s a cultural thing. Our community glamorizes everything that no community should if they want their community to be successful. Obviously a paradigm shift is needed, but I don’t think that there will ever be one. If a person tries to elevate himself, they look at that as selling out. I’m 43 years old. It’s been that way since I was a little girl. I would love to say that it won’t be that way in another 43 years but it seems to be getting worse in our community. It would be great if reading and literacy, along with education, pride, and dignity, was at the forefront of our aspirations as a community. Alas, it’s all about superficial shyt and being looked at as a “gangster”.
ETA: I take that back. I actually wasn’t like that when I was younger. You had music that was positive, and the black community really sought to be successful and continue to climb upward. We had pride in ourselves. The start of it came when rap music became popular. Yeah, I said it!
Our community is in the Dark Ages. Only way out is to push the underbelly back into the underbelly and to get away from ignorance.

Enlightenment is the key. We need to make up up and down down again
 
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