I knew as soon as it had more words than a page of "Goodnight Moon" you weren't going to read it.
It was a bulleted, line-by-line breakdown of how silly your arguments are. Point for point.
That's not true at all. I played to Euro ballers in college. My homie from Yugo was one. They get recruited to teams to join their academy and yes they get p*ssy thrown at them as well. He used to show me pictures of his broads there. It's not like Soccer but it's pretty popular. I can't speak for Western Europeans but I would imagine it is the same. The setup is similar to Europe's soccer setup.look here
europe : middle school, high school you have to pay to attend a special academy for bball players, while attending school IN PARALLEL where no one gives a shyt youre an athlete.
US: free public schools, everyone knows youre an athlete
europe: if youre good enough you get recruited by a club academy. which means you dont attend college. no opportunity ahead of you if you dont make it. you train every day with 30 dudes like yurself
US: you are god and attend a college for free where you are face of their program. you roll in money and bytches. still can get a degree in a decent college if bball doesnt work out.
so tell me, which player, on average, would work more ? the one in europe or the one in US ?
Watch more games.
The problem here is, you simply don't know what the fukk you're talking about. You can't even keep your metaphors straight.
1. We don't have the original source material, only quotes pulled from a conversation - that use a single 'apostrophe' no less.
2. He was talking in reference to the old mentality that european players were too soft, and not talented enough to play in the nba, and was - essentially - defending the european basketball player.
3. Your request to have him compare players he has coached to players he has not coached is so fukking retarded, it defies the logical pathways of thought.
4. He is right, the upbringing of the average pro-level european player is more structured, more grueling, more coached, and more demanding than that of the average pro-level US prospect. Most are put into professional level programs at a young age 12,13,14 - and are fed through their pro ranks from there. They are less coddled, they are given less choices, they live a far more spartan lifestyle.
5. The difference between the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th guys off an NBA bench, and the starters in the top euroleagues is non-existant. While european players may not make up the elite of the nba, there have certainly been some superstars and stars, Dirk, Pau, Marc, Manu, Tony Parker, Tim Duncan if you give it a leash (pop considers him International, he considers himself international). Your take on the "european talent" is myopic and stuck in the 80's. Top Euroleagues are far, far, far stronger than college basketball, with better players and better coaches. Which some young "top prospects" have learned over the last few years.
6. Finally - the insinuation that Greg Popovich - of all people - has to tell you shyt, or explain shyt to you is the highest of high comedy. He's up 2-1 on LeBron/Wade/Bosh with his collection of 'euros' that - according to you - aren't as talented as american players. And their schemes, both offensive and defensive, are running circles around - and confounding - the best player in modern basketball. He said that he has found them more coachable than young american players - thats' his experience. He's proven over and over that he can use european players - often considered less 'talented' than their contemporaries - and win with them. The perfect examples being Parker and Manu: Who are never considered among the elites of their position, but somehow have amassed historic winning %'s and a grip of rings with Tim Duncan. Who is from St. Croix - and was so lightly recruited as a result, that he almost ended up at the University of Hartford. And he's the greatest power forward of all time. Bar none. From St. Croix. Which was Danish until about a 100 years ago. Guys want to turn this into a race thing, Pop didn't say a thing about black or white. Diaw is french, and pop loves his fat ass.
Also, Andrew Wiggins is about to shatter this entire 'international players aren't as gifted as americans' thing. Black Thundering Nubian Celestial Canadian Dunker Disher and Swisher, having ignorantly-argumentative twats on this board lookin like
Watch more games. He has developed a jumper.
And to your - again, silly red-herring points - Jordan didn't develop a consistent outside shot until he was in the league 8-9 years.
There's no smoke and mirrors because the question is patently stupid. You're trying to change the conversation into something quantifiable in order to win an argument you've obviously lost.
But i'll indulge: The average European NBA player plays more basketball than the average american NBA player, because they almost across-the-board compete for their Olympic teams - at least in qualifying. Which means they are put through more international competition, more practices, more coaching, more systems to learn offensively, more travel, and more games than the average American Player.
Which is: Quantifiably - More hours in the Gym, more Court Time, more wear and tear on the legs and backs, more time studying film, and flat out more work. With a much shorter offseason.
just culture differences between american born and overseas. you arent gonna find to many jumping outta da gym type atheleticism and speed overseas, thats why euros are more finesse/skilled players they are usual the best shooters/passers because thats all you can relate to your strength if you arent athletic gifted. they find their niche early and keep working on it till they mastered their style of play. We love to win but we dont usualy like to win the fundamental way. we rather watch crossovers no look passes dunks instead of watchn fundamental basketball. white ppl hate playground ball because its to flashy n hip. hip hop and bball go hand to hand
And to no avail, there is not one single instance of what a Euro player does in the NBA, as opposed to their American counterparts, that makes them harder workers....
But I will let yall tell it...
