Popovich says Euro Players work harder

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I don't buy that american nba players work any less hard then their Euro counterparts, you just don't get to a high level of play on talent alone, it's impossible. I do buy that some of them are not as coachable as Euro players though, because Americans live in a culture that reveres athletes so much that we build them up and boost their heads from when they're kids, and ego starts to get in the way of listening.
But they treat their soccer stars same way over there
 

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pop needs to stfu

international players are the exception....not the rule in the nba. The reason they have to work so hard is because they suck. Marc GAsol...Luol Deng :bryan: at anyone using them as examples. They are the international equivalent of kris humphries and ben gordon :lolbron: None of them are superstar material. Euro players have to work hard to even keep up with our role players :yeshrug: . Maybe he should have stated that Mentally they seem to be tougher than some of the pampered superstars of the NBA
 

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Let's be real...the writer of the article said International players work harder....not Pop.
 

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what is so hard to understand?? lets say you're an engineer in america... you get hired by a german company to come work in germany... all the people there are around your skill level. but they been in the country, around the company, know a few people already there, worked with a few people already there, had a few people from their old company working there....

who's gonna work harder?? you are.. you have no shortcuts.. you had to bust your ass in america just to get noticed in germany.. while the german dudes been there getting notice for years



black men should know damn well this is true... didn't your pops ever tell you "in this world you will have to work twice as hard as a white guy to get the exact same things"

it's the same theory.. they work harder, cause they have something to prove. they are the 5%-10% of the league.. it's probably lower than that. they weren't in MJ camp at 10, recruited to aau by 12, having high schools beg them to come to their school, have colleges beg them to come to their school, have magazines die for an interview, have shoe companies giving them 50 mil before the draft even comes.


its just natural that a #1 pick who was the top recruit in college and the top high school player... would feel more "safe" and thus be more likely to fukk around...

then some guy who was just discovered last year by ONE coach who happened to see some game film







i could go on for days... how paris hilton is with money vs a bill gates who worked for it... a nikka hitting the lotto and blowing it in a year vs someone who worked hard to earn the money and now invests it... mj getting cut in 9th grade fueled him to the point he invited his coach back from high school, to the HOF speech just to shyt on him.. while lebron getting 90 mil from nike and playing around like winning a ring was just gonna happen by magic

entitlement is a bad thing to SOME people. they feel they deserve the praise, instead of working to get it. so when they get the praise, they feel they are done working.. while someone who was never praised and felt he had to do it alone.. we NEVER be satisfied until the world says "we were wrong"
 

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I could have sworn, I said, after they join the NBA

Again.

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The average European NBA player plays more basketball than the average american NBA player, because they almost across-the-board compete for their Olympic teams - at least in qualifying. Which means they are put through more international competition, more practices, more coaching, more systems to learn offensively, more travel, and more games than the average American Player.

Which is: Quantifiably - More hours in the Gym, more Court Time, more wear and tear on the legs and backs, more time studying film, and flat out more work. With a much shorter offseason.
 

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Even with all of that time in the gym, they're not coming here being better players, so I don't see the big deal.
 

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Even with all of that time in the gym, they're not coming here being better players, so I don't see the big deal.

It's just his preference.


But these children are probably right... racism, not AAU are to blame. :skip:
 

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It's just his preference.


But these children are probably right... racism, not AAU are to blame. :skip:

Doesn't completely exonerate Pop from possibly holding a bias either.
 

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Doesn't completely exonerate Pop from possibly holding a bias either.

No, but biases for performance based on experience are a preference.


The fact is, he has a track record and history to speak on this subject. So he did. People on this message board disagree, which is fine. But this board is populated with fukking idiots.


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Thank you, let me see you not post in here again about anything, cause off course ONLY experts should discuss anything.

There's a difference between discussing who you think is a better player/team vs whether you think Pop's opinion based on his own experience is right or wrong. It's Pop's own experience with NBA players. But you go on and continue discussing whether Pop interpreted his own experience incorrectly:snoop:
 

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SLAM ONLINE | » Gregg Popovich Says International Players are Less Selfish and More Coachable



What yall think? I think he should have qualified this statement. Anybody that is less talented has to work harder to keep a spot, that's across the board and is not race specific.

Not sure what his intent was for saying this. There is no international player with Lebron, Westbrook, Durant, Kobe, etc type talent.

He would need to have a Euro player who is equal in talent to some of the best in the league to make that statement.

They probably are more coachable no doubt, but that's probably because they have been professionals since they were 16-18.
It's not racism. Most black players tend to have a chip on their shoulders and are not as coachable. Iverson. Marbury. But to be fair there are far more coachable black players than the uncoachable ones but the media noise makes it seem like the other way around. For every Iverson there are about 15 Grant Hills. But the "Iverson" types be on the news so often you'd thing the ratio is the other way around.

Dont know about the hard worker part though... maybe less talented players putting in more effort is what he means
 
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