Possible ongoing Coup in Turkey?
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Rican B*stard
Pretty unclear on what's going on. Twitter has contradictory stuff which makes sense, since I believe it has been shut down in Turkey.
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Boricua Guerrero
seems like the coup fell,
still some fighting in Ankara but its fair to say the coup failed
Mané Swagincha
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Just got this on my phone
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Rican B*stard
Without seizing Erdogan and his people, the coup is/was probably destined to fail or descend into civil conflict.
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Rican B*stard
Thanks for all the updates, btw, everyone. This thread has been easier than filtering all the noise on Twitter and more helpful than the vague media reports.
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Fast Money & Foreign Objects
More Than 130 Arrested, and Death Toll Rises to 42
nyt live stream
seems like things have been mopped up
nyt live stream
seems like things have been mopped up
Church and State are separate
Erdogan was prime minister for 12 years. The AKP liberalized and democratized Turkey over the last decade and a half. Remember, Turkey tried to join the EU and the AKP was able to make the argument that the military coup culture had to be eliminated and power restored to civil society. They succeeded in that for the most part.
The last couple years you've seen Erdogan attempt to power grab, he became President which is a ceremonial post and had tried to gain a majority in parliament to change the constitution and make it a presidential republic. He's jailed journalists, suppressed dissent and gone after opposition groups.
He's attacked Kurds but to be honest, every Turkish party hates the Kurds.
The bad news for him is that there are some in his own party that don't want that.
Turkey has checks and balances, Erdogan hasn't been able to get everything he wants.
This isn't about Islamist vs secularist like CNN and others want you to believe. Turkey is a Muslim country with a secular government. It's ruled by a Muslim party that has been able to transform the country. And they are still immensely popular for that reason.
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Rican B*stard
Probably going to be a bad time to be a dissident in Turkey for a while. Although the choice between Islamist aspiring autocrat and militaristic deep state is one where most people lose anyway...
I'm no expert, but it seems this was the sloppiest coup attempt by the military in Turkey's history.
I'm no expert, but it seems this was the sloppiest coup attempt by the military in Turkey's history.
It's because it's only a small part of the military
It's a bunch of disgruntled officers who broke with the top brass.
In the past, the coups were executed by the top brass and the military basically ran the country with extreme secularlists in the civilian posts. But they lost economic power with over reliance on state owned enterprises and suppression of civil society.
The AKP rode that wave with a constituency that was heavily involved in maintaining and furthering the private sector manufacturing and tech sector, a sector where the more socially conservative Muslims dominate in.
I feel like these guys have something up their sleeves ... can't have planned for this trash result
