Possible ongoing Coup in Turkey?

[88m3]

between federal and state judges we probably have about 13k.

who are you to judge?

Spoiler: spoiler

couldn't help myself

 

[Dr. Acula]

these police bucking on the army like this


How you the army and you getting arrested

The only thing the military was capable of is firing their guns in the air. While the police are the arm of Edogan and would have no problems shooting them dead. They had no heart

 

[nyknick]

Turkish soldiers say they were 'not aware they were part of coup attempt'

mhmm

this was just a prank

we were just doing a social experiment for YouTube

 

[Dr. Acula]

this was just a prank

we were just doing a social experiment for YouTube

"ITS A PRANK BRO. ITS JUST A PRANK!!! THE CAMERA IS OVER THERE!"

 

[ill]

You sound crazy breh. Sounding like the kingsmen and shyt


When it comes to Erdogan people turn into Alex Jones.

All I'm saying is all you people who advocated for a military crackdown on people's democratic voice I never EVER want to hear you bring up Chinese democracy and Tiananmen Square.

Did you feel the same way with Ukraine?

 

[Dr. Acula]

I actually feel sorry for the coup participants in this case.

They overall restrained themselves from firing on crowds or being as oppressive as they can possibly be in an effort practice their constitutional right of removing the president who is slowly overstepping his bounds.

That high rate of turmoil isn’t exactly an accident. In fact, one of the reasons behind the string of coups has to do with something baked into the Turkish system of government. As TIME explained after one of those coups, the nation’s constitution leaves the military with the authority to “step in” when needed; military leaders are not beholden to political leaders.

On the other hand, those same protestors you spared in a sense, are now beheading you and beating you in the street. They have no qualms about killing their countrymen.

 

[Dr. Acula]

No it doesn't make sense. People criticise Erdogan for authoritarianism yet were cheering on a military dictatorship.

Whether we on the outside like their policies or not, AKP won a majority and have a mandate to govern the country. You wouldn't "cast your lot" with those that want to subvert the people's political rights in the US, Brazil etc and you shouldn't in Turkey.

According to the constitution, the military has the right to step in to take over if the president is deemed unfit or not adhering to the constitution. Constitutions are supposed to be an guide for running a country that isn't influenced by the shifting winds of any political climate at any particular time. Particularly in this case, the popularity of islam and Erdogan's catering to it should have no bearing that the constitution is still being followed. Also its not like Erdogan has complete mandate based on the last election. It was nearly split 50/50 and he won barely. Also its not like the military has no argument that Erdogan is slowly becoming more dictatorial. Based on this information, they had a pretty good argument for staging the coup and its legally backed by their constiution.

 

[Scoop]

Turkey accuses U.S. of harboring coup mastermind

By KRISTEN EAST | 07/16/2016 09:23 AM EDT | Updated: 07/16/2016 12:05 PM EDT
Turkey accuses U.S. of harboring coup mastermind

(via POLITICO for iOS)
Turkey accuses U.S. of harboring coup mastermind

 

[African Peasant]

Yeah. Basically every constitution in the world gives the people the right to fight against a tyrannical government. The problem is everyone can interpret those dispotion in his favor.

According to the constitution, the military has the right to step in to take over if the president is deemed unfit or not adhering to the constitution. Constitutions are supposed to be an guide for running a country that isn't influenced by the shifting winds of any political climate at any particular time. Particularly in this case, the popularity of islam and Erdogan's catering to it should have no bearing that the constitution is still being followed. Also its not like Erdogan has complete mandate based on the last election. It was nearly split 50/50 and he won barely. Also its not like the military has no argument that Erdogan is slowly becoming more dictatorial. Based on this information, they had a pretty good argument for staging the coup and its legally backed by their constiution.

There is a constitutional court and there are elections.

Plus, for many years, the main request made by the UE was the end of the military's interferences in political/civil affairs.

 

[African Peasant]

Is Erdogan still blaming his buddy Gulen ?

 

[88m3]

Wait what? I was following South Sudan pretty closely but haven't been the last 4-5 months. They had a civil war that erupted in December 2013, but signed a peace agreement late last year with the rebel leader returning as VP. Has the situation devolved again?

Is There Any Hope Left for South Sudan? - The New Yorker

over the last week or so...

 

[Dead End]

I've read that it was basically a colonel coup, that was done 2 months before a probable military purge. Most of the top brass had nothing to do with it.

The Gulen stuff seems like a smokscreen. Their version of Trotsky or the Falun Gong.

 

[Idaeo]

Lets get a smiley of that last soldier's face.

my first attempt

 

[JahFocus CS]

Well that ended quickly.

Erdogan gonna be feeling himself after this, gonna go full-blown Adolf Erdogan now.

 

[88m3]

Well that ended quickly.

Erdogan gonna be feeling himself after this, gonna go full-blown Adolf Erdogan now.

Saddam or Assad may be better contemporaries