Prime Kobe >>>>> Prime LeBron

[Xerces]

Admitted? That's my entire premise. Of course Dirk would have more team success if he he had better teammates. Every player would. That is why it's stupid to judge players by rings when you clearly need others to get them.

You must forgive me. From the way you were talking about Dirk I thought you were one of those "See Dirk was able to win a ring without a HOfer so that's how everybody should try to do it, despite the fact that it's far from the norm or the most successful way to go about getting rings." ass nikkas.

Replying to your 2nd post

Def not how it should be done, and I honestly hope Cuban this year tries to put together a legit contender to send my German Breh off into his possible last championship "ride into the sunset". we'll see:shake:

 

[Sccit]

in the finals or in the playoffs overall? Kobe's first ring is one of the most undeserved rings for a top 20 player OAT. He didn't even play in 1 game and left one game and missed most of it and they still found a way to win, all bc of how good shaq was in 2000. Kobe could've easily been replaced on that team by vince carter, AI, and ray allen in 2000. and kobe, a replaceable second option did more then the finals MVP of 2012 and 2013, okay

2000 u might have a case, kobe was still developing and was a clear cut second option that year....but 2001, he was on par with shaq, and by 2002, he already surpassed him as a player. shaq was a dominant personality, though. when the coaching staff wanted to run the offense through kobe, shaq bittched n moaned til he'd get his way......still, 22 year old kobe > current lebron. thats real.

 

[dh86]

2000 u might have a case, kobe was still developing and was a clear cut second option that year....but 2001, he was on par with shaq, and by 2002, he already surpassed him as a player. shaq was a dominant personality, though. when the coaching staff wanted to run the offense through kobe, shaq bittched n moaned til he'd get his way......still, 22 year old kobe > current lebron. thats real.

At what?

 

[Sccit]

You're dumb....fukk it. I have no other words to describe this post. Excuse my disrespect



The 2000 Finals?

You mean the Finals where Jalen Rose INTENTIONALLY injured him in the 2nd quarter of Game 2, because he couldnt guard him, which caused Kobe to miss the rest of that game and also miss Game 3?

The Finals where Kobe scored 22 points in the 2nd Half + OT of Game 4 when Shaq got fouled out to lead them to victory on a last second shot?

The Finals where he had 26 points, 10 rebounds, 4 assists, 2 blocks, and 1 steal in the Game 6 close out game to win his 1st championship?



Come on now dunn

scary thing is that was kobe way before his prime....and he was still better than lebron LOL

 

[ROFL_GUY]

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Kobe Bryant Game By Game Stats and Performance - Los Angeles Lakers - ESPN

Conference Finals 36.3pts 8.7reb 5.7asst

NBA Finals 26.0pts 12.0reb 6.0asst





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Kobe Bryant Game By Game Stats and Performance - Los Angeles Lakers - ESPN

Conference Finals 27.6pts 6.3reb 3.9asst

NBA Finals 26.8pts 5.8reb 5.3asst


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Kobe Bryant Game By Game Stats and Performance - Los Angeles Lakers - ESPN

Conference Finals 34.0pts 5.8reb 5.8ast

NBA Finals 32.4pts 5.6reb 7.4asst


'10
Kobe Bryant Game By Game Stats and Performance - Los Angeles Lakers - ESPN

Conference Finals 33.7pts 7.2reb 8.3asst

NBA Finals 28.6pts 8.0reb 3.9asst

 

[Draje]

Kobe Bean Bryant scored over 35 ppg. Averaging over 35 ppg is an extremely rare achievement as it has only been done by a handful of players who have been able to maintain a scoring average of over 35 ppg. Kobe’s achievement puts him in a very elite club that included just three players previously: Wilt Chamberlain, Michael Jordan, and Rick Barry.

Didn't answer the question. So someone scoring 35 points in 35% efficiency is impressive to you? Lebron scored 5 less points on much higher efficiency. You're arguing that if Lebron took 6 more shots again, he couldn't make 2 of them.

Nah that doesn't answer my question. Name 1 elite perimeter player that gets a 5 foot cushion on the perimeter like LeBron had against Spurs. Don't even bother replying if you're not gonna answer what I asked. No one asked about any of the stuff you just typed.

None because Lebron is an entirely different breed of player than Kobe or most of the other greats. Melo and Durant wouldn't get the same type of defensive set that Lebron did because they're also better shooter but being a better scorer doesn't translate into a better player.

None of them, and I don't even remember seeing it use much on LeBron until this series and after he exposed it, I doubt we'll be seeing it again.

You Stans keep hyping up this defensive strategy that didnt even work, I know you're all devastated right now but you gotta get in touch with reality.

Taking away a player's best offensive weapon is stupid? It was done because Lebron has literally went through entire series, demolishing the best defender on the other team because it's all but impossible for most perimeter defenders to stop Lebron from getting to the hoop if you play close on him because he's too strong for the quick players and too quick for the stronger ones.

You know why teams don't play Kobe like that? Because he's not as good around the hoop, passing to his teammates when defenses collapse, or the like. Lebron scores like a center around the rim.

Nikkas are really arguing that Kobe having a better jumper makes him a better player as if passing, defense, playmaking, slashing, finishing, and rebounding simply doesn't matter anymore.

Again, Lebron still scores similar amount of points, on higher efficiency, and less attemps despite his jumper not being as good while being better in every other category.

 

[dh86]

Kobe Bean Bryant scored over 35 ppg. Averaging over 35 ppg is an extremely rare achievement as it has only been done by a handful of players who have been able to maintain a scoring average of over 35 ppg. Kobe’s achievement puts him in a very elite club that included just three players previously: Wilt Chamberlain, Michael Jordan, and Rick Barry.

Kobe Bryant shot 30 or more shots 25 times in the 2006 season. LeBron James has shot 30 or more shots 27 times in his career. LeBron could have lead the league in scoring every season if he wanted to. Thats the problem with volume stats, you lose perspective and you type bullshyt.

 

[Draje]

01
Kobe Bryant Game By Game Stats and Performance - Los Angeles Lakers - ESPN

Conference Finals 36.3pts 8.7reb 5.7asst

NBA Finals 26.0pts 12.0reb 6.0asst





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Kobe Bryant Game By Game Stats and Performance - Los Angeles Lakers - ESPN

Conference Finals 27.6pts 6.3reb 3.9asst

NBA Finals 26.8pts 5.8reb 5.3asst


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Kobe Bryant Game By Game Stats and Performance - Los Angeles Lakers - ESPN

Conference Finals 34.0pts 5.8reb 5.8ast

NBA Finals 32.4pts 5.6reb 7.4asst


'10
Kobe Bryant Game By Game Stats and Performance - Los Angeles Lakers - ESPN

Conference Finals 33.7pts 7.2reb 8.3asst

NBA Finals 28.6pts 8.0reb 3.9asst

Good thing player ability isn't decided by the sample sizes of two series out an entire playoff, right? No sane person thinks a small sample size dictates how good a player is, right?

Lebron's playoff numbers over, the entire post-season crap all over Kobe's. Stay mad.

 

[ROFL_GUY]

27yr old KOBE BRYANT

Kobe Bryant Game By Game Stats and Performance - Los Angeles Lakers - ESPN

janruary of 2006 -- avgs for entire month

43.4pts 5.6reb 4.1asst 47%fg



APril 2006 -- avgs for entire month


41.6pts 5.5reb 3.6asst 51%FG


avg 35.4pts per game in 05-06

 

[Sccit]

At what?

basketball cuzz

 

[dh86]

27yr old KOBE BRYANT

Kobe Bryant Game By Game Stats and Performance - Los Angeles Lakers - ESPN

janruary of 2006 -- avgs for entire month

43.4pts 5.6reb 4.1asst 47%fg



APril 2006 -- avgs for entire month


41.6pts 5.5reb 3.6asst 51%FG


avg 35.4pts per game in 05-06

The Kobe fans that tell LeBron fans that regular season dont matter resort to this? Its such a sick sad world that your hero is being bypassed and forgotten. Sick sad.

 

[Draje]

scary thing is that was kobe way before his prime....and he was still better than lebron LOL

Except Lebron's playoff numbers in Cleveland are still better than anything than Kobe put up even his best years.

 

[ROFL_GUY]

Good thing player ability isn't decided by the sample sizes of two series out an entire playoff, right? No sane person thinks a small sample size dictates how good a player is, right?

Lebron's playoff numbers over, the entire post-season crap all over Kobe's. Stay mad.

who has he played in the EC..????? in the PO the celtics when they had their big 3 was the ONLY EC team that won 50+ games in the EC playoffs

do you know how many 50+ teams bron has beat in the EC playoffs in his career?


you know that he didnt play ANY team in the 2013playoffs that won 50+ games till he met SA in the finals?

 

[Sccit]

Kobe Bryant shot 30 or more shots 25 times in the 2006 season. LeBron James has shot 30 or more shots 27 times in his career. LeBron could have lead the league in scoring every season if he wanted to. Thats the problem with volume stats, you lose perspective and you type bullshyt.

thats the common misconception between you lebron lovers...


lebron shoots a higher percentage because he only shoots when he knows he'll make it. thats also the same reason he could never score 81 and scores under 20 points for three straight finals games...cuz sometimes, those easy looks wont be coming when moments intensify and defenses close in. thats the same reason he cant take over a game and needs others to pave the way.

 

[Draje]

basketball cuzz

Except Lebron scores as much, on less attempts, while being a better passer, defender, rebounder, playmaker, and all-around playing.