Pusha T Claims Rap's "Forefathers" Didn't "Stand The Test Of Time"

[Still Benefited]

I'm sorry fam TI is nice to ME. but yeah I agree. And I was just listened to Crank Lucas do the Southern nikkas freestyle and I was blown away how original all those brothers were whos flow he mimicked. But I do disagree with one thing a lot of rappers get old and get lazy. lets not say lazy more like uninspired. and you can hear it in their verses. I'm drunk. so I'll try to explain myself better tomorrow.

Forgive them,they know not what they do


T.I only problem is he still wants to be relevent and compete with the stars of today. But he has the skill level to still produce a classic.

 

[BelowTheMasonDixon]

(Save for T.I., lol) You picked great examples here.

Eightball & MJG are still rapping and still sound good on these Trap beats…but no one can fucc with them in their pocket.
Put them on a cool ass T-Mixxx, Slice T, or even an MJG beat - nobody else can do that chit like them. I want them to do that and not what Lil’ New Guy is doing; who is doing what 100 other new rappers are doing.

Same with $hort. He still hard. His delivery is timeless, and he will never run out of material.
But I’m lying if I say it didn’t sound better with Banks and them than it does with these Atlanta dudes.
Short was smart and saw the switch and did it after “You Can’t Be A Better Player”, so you can’t be mad.

But I don’t know why people think that 50-year-olds who have been rapping since they were teens
just forget how to rap. Anything you keep doing for that long you get better at.


Naw I get it.
I’m just talking chit because i’m petty about T.I. because IMO he was a copy of Tela who did not get the props he deserves.

You going to have to explain this cause I've never thought of TI being a copy of Tela and I dug Tela.

 

[Rozay Oro]

nikkas love shytting on new generation but the 80s rappers were rapping basic as hell

I actually appreciate 80s production a lot though, the beats were simple but came out so damn hard

Some nikkas got timeless flows like Slick Rick and Kool G Rap.

Some don’t, LL Cool J. His albums from his prime is dope but I never cared for his modern shyt.

 

[BelowTheMasonDixon]

Forgive them,they know not what they do


T.I only problem is he still wants to be relevent and compete with the stars of today. But he has the skill level to still produce a classic.

I still be having faith in that nikka. He needs to make his "The Fix" like Scarface did.

 

[Playaz Eyez]

At least a couple people actually read the full quote. Definitely would’ve expect any of those white girls on the first page to do so.

 

[Primetime21]

He’s right

 

[Da_Eggman]

Such as?

 

[Uchiha God]

Don’t see anything wrong with what he said

 

[Taadow]

You going to have to explain this cause I've never thought of TI being a copy of Tela and I dug Tela.

Imma try - but I don’t see how anybody can’t see it!

Especially after Tip first album. Pimp Squad Clique-ish T.I. sounds just like The World Ain’t Enuff/Double Dose Tela.
Same delivery, similar voice, same subject matter - eventually, the same producers and same collaborators!
Then, around the time of T.I. vs T.I.P. when Tip was trying to go more mainstream, he even started dressing like Tela!
It was some real-time Single White Female chit…

I’m not saying T.I. can’t rap - but I always looked at him with the side eye because of this.
I feel some way about people calling Tip the “King Of The South” or Top 20 all time when somebody
else done did his style better than him.

I would challenge anyone to play “Table Dance”, “U Can’t Tell”, “Right Now”, “Bring ‘Em Out”, or “These Hoes”
in front of anybody at random - I bet you they would think they was listening to T.I.

 

[skokiaan]

Except..

LL, Wayne, JZ, Nas, Cube, Snoop, KRS, Lox..

All older than Pusha T rapwise and all rank higher on my list..

Might as well add Bow Wow

 

[Playaz Eyez]

I can’t see any T.I. in Tela lmaoooo

 

[thelonious21]

Big Daddy Kane and Rakim should be selling out arenas

 

[Jcotton1]

He's speaking like he Jay z or Jadakiss. He needs to thank the Pharrell, Chad and the other brotha and just talk with his home state directly.

 

[Ohene]

never seen a rapper as unaccomplished, and unheralded be so arrogant

 

[Switch]

Why is anyone getting mad at what he said? He’s literally right.