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There are many Gods.....Gods are beings
Not to be confused with the Creator....is a principle. That neither exist or does not exist - transcends existence out of time and beyond space
 

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There are many Gods.....Gods are beings
Not to be confused with the Creator....is a principle. That neither exist or does not exist - transcends existence out of time and beyond space
what does all that even mean?:dahell:

like for example

There are many Gods
how do you even know that?
Gods are beings
what does that mean?
the Creator....is a principle
what does that mean?
a principle. That neither exist or does not exist - transcends existence out of time and beyond space
wtf does that mean? and how does it manifest in my existence>
 

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I can't believe that Egypt would refuse to record that because of their embarrassment of losing. They were struck by God, they literally couldn't deny Yahweh's existence at that point. Why would they not record it? Why wouldn't they just worship the God of Israel after that?

Dates are all screwed up from that time period, even the Ipuwer Papyrus they believe is from a time period between 1600 BCE and 2300 BCE (that's 600 years). So I don't know how they can not pin point dates with any kind of certainty, but they can say Biblical events did not occur with exact certainty. I saw a good documentary on Netflix where other Archaeologists feel the same way towards Egyptologist and their assumptions.

Those loses was recorded, because shortly after the Exodus, Egypt were invaded and did not put up much of a fight because they felt the "Gods" abandoned them, this is according to Admonitions of an Egyptian Sage.

Also, during Ramesses II's rule there are writings on a wall that already acknowledge Israel, so the Children of Israel were gone.

If God is all powerful, then why not just snap his fingers and make them into righteous people? I can't believe that a supposed God that is infinitely smarter than even the smartest human that ever lived couldn't think of a better plan than to slaughter all of the men, women, and children of other nations that he supposedly created. After all, He never revealed himself to them. For all they knew, they were doing the right thing.

God did come with a better plan, God brought us the Messiah as predicted by Isaiah.

But if you read through the Old Testament, a lot of the Prophets and followers of Yahweh were punished for disobedience. So any time the Children of Israel did wrong there were consequences. Even King David was not allowed to build the Temple because of his foul ways, and King Solomon's disobedience is what led to the fall of Jerusalem and our bondage until Christ the Messiah came.

The coming of Christ did not bring so much war and suffering, so the results were better without the use of any of the brutal and harsh tactics of war and conflict.

Exodus 20:13 States You shall not murder. Its depends on whether you view any killing during a war or battle as a "murder" or as a "casualty". Many battles were fought in the Old Testament, how you feel about those killings depends on your views about war. But the coming of Christ allowed for a different way of doing things.
 

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I was never religious in the sense that I was never in any religious groups. I used to just call myself a Christian because everyone else did it, and I thought that if it was the biggest religion in the world, it must be true :manny: Needless to say, after reading the Bible, I do not believe that the Abrahamic God exists. Anyway, I do believe that a god may exist but I'm sort of doubtful about it. I feel like if God never interacted with humans like the Bible, Koran, Torah, or any other religious book says, then God must be a man-made concept that was created somewhere down the line. For the agnostics in here, what is your reason for believing that a god may exist? Why aren't you just an Atheist?
:wow:How did i miss this shyt ? :russ:

you need to correct your title breh. These atheists unicorns like to go by "agnostic atheists" around these parts. I'm surprised @Napoleon didn't come through with his chart to correct you on your mistake :ufdup: :heh:
 

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what does all that even mean?:dahell:

like for example

God is a being with a lot more knowledge and technology than you understand....


how do you even know that?

Nearly every religion and spiritual beliefs lets you know that.....One God is usually depicted as Good and the other as evil and each have several lesser gods.

what does that mean?

You are a being so is the Gods

what does that mean?

Yeah that's where it gets sticky, and difficult for the mind to understand but thanks to quantum physics science is finally unraveling it.
A principle is a law governing realty....the principle or the law does not exist but its mode of operation is in effect.
Here is a close approximation as an example ; - the effects of Gravity is real but does gravity itself exist....No

wtf does that mean? and how does it manifest in my existence>

There is only one time and that is NOW
There is only one space and that is HERE
Past future and there are mental exercises....

It does not manifest in your existence.....it transcends existence
 

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God is a being with a lot more knowledge and technology than you understand....
then how the hell would you know anything about it?
Nearly every religion and spiritual beliefs lets you know that.....One God is usually depicted as Good and the other as evil and each have several lesser gods.
so someone told you?
You are a being so is the Gods
so god is just another dude? then why can't I see him/her?
Yeah that's where it gets sticky, and difficult for the mind to understand but thanks to quantum physics science is finally unraveling it.
A principle is a law governing realty....the principle or the law does not exist but its mode of operation is in effect.
Here is a close approximation as an example ; - the effects of Gravity is real but does gravity itself exist....No
what has quantum physics got to do with this? we have measurements and repeatable experiments AND proven predictive models/observations FOR GRAVITY, you have no such thing for god(s)
There is only one time and that is NOW
There is only one space and that is HERE
Past future and there are mental exercises....
that just new age jibbuh jabbah pablum and completely false, it means nothing. besides the timestamps on this conversation tells us there is more time than now

It does not manifest in your existence.....it transcends existence
what the hell does that mean and how and why would you possibly know about it, if it is outside of the realm of existence?
 

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These atheists unicorns like to go by "agnostic atheists" around these parts
I'm atheist atheist
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then how the hell would you know anything about it?

The same you know most everything....knowledge is passed on.

so someone told you?
Yes

so god is just another dude? then why can't I see him/her?
in your vernacular .....yes
Many reasons....
First of which is probable he or she is not where you are etc etc

what has quantum physics got to do with this? we have measurements and repeatable experiments AND proven predictive models/observations FOR GRAVITY, you have no such thing for god(s)

Again a God is a being with more knowledge and technology than you....look up "cargo religion"
Not all things can be measured.....Emotions or thougths

that just new age jibbuh jabbah pablum and completely false, it means nothing. besides the timestamps on this conversation tells us there is more time than now

You can only exist in the NOW
No matter how you slice or dice it or malign it.....it is a fact


what the hell does that mean and how and why would you possibly know about it, if it is outside of the realm of existence?

Shared knowledge
 

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And all religious fundamentalists are.
Exactly I really cant stand when people try to say atheist are a$$holes or bad people its ridiculous. Also I cant stand when people say there must be a god because even if the big bang is true someone had to create the matter ok then someone had to create the god also so who created the god.
 

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The same you know most everything....knowledge is passed on.
that tells you nothing about the information, whether it is true
besides you said
God is a being with a lot more knowledge and technology than you understand....
how can you pass on something you don't understand
how do you know they are correct?
in your vernacular .....yes
Many reasons....
First of which is probable he or she is not where you are etc etc
where is he/she?
Again a God is a being with more knowledge and technology than you
how do you know that?
You can only exist in the NOW
No matter how you slice or dice it or malign it.....it is a fact
again that's just useless jibuh jabah, you are ignoring memory and this very conversation that has existed beyond the now
Shared knowledge
how can you share knowledge you can't know? remember you said
God is a being with a lot more knowledge and technology than you understand....
 

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that tells you nothing about the information, whether it is true
besides you said

True...but if you experience it, they it becomes true to you.

how can you pass on something you don't understand

Rote.....we may not know all God knows but can comprehend some.

how do you know they are correct?

Experience is one way/

where is he/she?

The Creator is every where and nowhere.....Transcends space - non-local.
God is a multitude of individual beings....who knows where they are.....anywhere they chose to be or can be.

how do you know that?

If God did not have more technology and knowledge than I have access to.....then he would just be another sentient being
The difference between us and God is primarily knowledge.

again that's just useless jibuh jabah, you are ignoring memory and this very conversation that has existed beyond the now

I am not..... Memory is a mental phenomena

how can you share knowledge you can't know? remember you said

Never said you cant Know it.....Just that you do not understand it
Our lack of understanding makes his superior knowledge appear like he is the Creator
The whole purpose of existence is for you to become more and more Godlike - Knowledgeable
 

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True...but if you experience it, they it becomes true to you.
so this only needs to be true to and can be false to me?
ok, cool, I don't need to respond to the rest of what I quoted, I wish you mentioned this earlier
but no problem
enjoy :thumbsup:
Rote.....we may not know all God knows but can comprehend some.

Experience is one way/

The Creator is every where and nowhere.....Transcends space - non-local.
God is a multitude of individual beings....who knows where they are.....anywhere they chose to be or can be.

If God did not have more technology and knowledge than I have access to.....then he would just be another sentient being
The difference between us and God is primarily knowledge.

I am not..... Memory is a mental phenomena

Never said you cant Know it.....Just that you do not understand it
Our lack of understanding makes his superior knowledge appear like he is the Creator
The whole purpose of existence is for you to become more and more Godlike - Knowledgeable
 

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so this only needs to be true to and can be false to me?
ok, cool, I don't need to respond to the rest of what I quoted, I wish you mentioned this earlier
but no problem
enjoy :thumbsup:

Peace out glad to be of help
 

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Peace out glad to be of help
you didn't help
you did not even answer the questions without speaking in circles
but that's ok I had no idea that you were only speaking about a truth that only you can see
 
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