Random NBA Observations 2014 - 2015

[tremonthustler1]

They'd be better off with Kendall Marshall at less than 1/3 of the price.

and then who plays D?

Again, they have far bigger problems than whether one guy is putting up points or not in games where teams are scoring points in the paint at will amongst other things and no way to address it besides a wake

 

[tremonthustler1]

nobody is checking Wolves games.

We definitely got this much out of it.

 

[who_better_than_me]

He was on a better team last year, they were losing close games like it was going on sale. They actually had a positive point differential last year

I don't see the value in guys who shoot under 40% and can't score 18ppg or more, I shytted on Brandon Jennings, you really think I would like what I see with Rubio because he can run an offense? So can Rondo, give me a guy that will make quick decisions, move the ball and spot up for 3s over the "floor general" that can't get me 12ppg.

only thing wrong with rubio is his hesitation to shoot it. You gotta be brave/confident to shoot it even if you dont shoot it well. Rafer alston wasnt a good shooter but jvg and svg made sure he shot it if the opporunity presented itelf.

I dont think Rubio is a cornerstone for a franchise but i dont think hes as underwhelming as folks make him out to be.

Kidd was a subpar perimter threat during the prime of his career and he was very sucessful. I guess you didnt see the value in him most of his career

 

[Malta]

Why do you keep saying they have the means? They don't. Nothing should stop them from being able to even land players worth keeping around. They have 3 out of 15 yet you recommend dealing 2 of them to get another LaVine.

They'd dump him sooner than you think, but they also have no idea what they're doing.

Like I said, Flip's idea of a PG upgrade is a player who can't play basketball. If you wanna trust that, then God help us all.

Because you do have the means, I mean if Rubio is as good as you think he is teams would be lining up to get him + LaVine in a package. You have young talent that you could package with Rubio to bring back another PG

I wouldn't go that far. If this is his worst case scenario, he's not top 10. Not that it really matters. Can he help us win games? Year 1 didn't help him or anyone in that regard.

Worst case scenario he's already better than Rubio. Fam, you're talking about Rubio like he's the sole reason you win games

No unless you think him tearing his ACL and folding his ankle in half is his fault. The closest we've been to a playoff team in that time span was with him leading the team, but you want me to think giving that up for a near guaranteed bum would help matters

and it's hard to say what Ricky coulda did in those situations since he wasn't out there. Rick didn't like him, so he trotted out guards who shot worse and took less care of the ball.

So he's injury prone ontop of not being able to shoot? Adelman didn't want him on the floor because he cannot shoot period, look around the league and you'll see that PGs that can't shoot get benched in close games. So you think Rubio's value will only get you back a "guaranteed bum" in return?

You know what else you can't get away with? Your best player being a drifter and invisible. In order for that to change Wiggins has to grow a set. Alert me when he does on a consistent basis.

Rookies tend to do that, isn't it kind of a bad look for the Wolves if their best player is a PG that can't shoot, in fact he's so bad at shooting that the young rookie they have on their team now that you say isn't a basketball player is already a better shooter? Seriously, both Wiggins and LaVine are better jump shooters than him ALREADY, that shyt is mindblowing to me.

If Wiggins is the future of the team, it's not telling me much good or bad. I can't bank on someone who's not impacting the outcome of games positively yet. If he can do that, the results will show, but that's an IF not a WHEN. I haven't even seen a game yet where he's like "fukk this shyt I'll win it myself if I have to" and do it.

Well Dieng would be lucky to get good offers as is (and if he could, take the first good offer you get and run) He should be an example of how I'm not opposed to changing course on a player when warranted (but I'd bet you or someone else would say I'm being harsh on him)

How many rookies have positively impacted games in the last 10 years? I mean you're asking for something that pretty much doesn't happen. If Rubio is the future of that team you're in for a world of trouble, there isn't a PG in the league like him leading their team to wins, at least you can draw parallels to players like Wiggins being built around, Rubio though? not a single one.


You're not opposed to changing as long as it's not Rubio, that's what I don't get, I think you'd even trade Wiggins before him. Like I said, there are a gang of PGs better than him, you cannot tell me this dude is anything close to a franchise player.

 

[Malta]

only thing wrong with rubio is his hesitation to shoot it. You gotta be brave/confident to shoot it even if you dont shoot it well. Rafer alston wasnt a good shooter but jvg and svg made sure he shot it if the opporunity presented itelf.

I dont think Rubio is a cornerstone for a franchise but i dont think hes as underwhelming as folks make him out to be.

Kidd was a subpar perimter threat during the prime of his career and he was very sucessful. I guess you didnt see the value in him most of his career

Rubio is the worst shooting PG in the modern era, he's hesitant to shoot because he's awful at it, no amount of confidence is going to fix that. He needs to be locked in a gym everyday over the summer taking 2000 jumpers a day, that is the only way to fix his problem.

He's underwhelming when you start naming PGs and you come to a point where you're looking at Dennis Schroeder and thinking "Rubio makes $13 mill a year, but Dennis is still on a rookie deal...... "

Jason Kidd was a terrible 3 point shooter early in his career but became a reliable one towards the end and he played in a different NBA during his early days where 3 point shooting from the PG spot wasn't really a necessity, now it is and you cannot have a dude out there shooting 26% from 3.......after he's been a pro for damn near a decade. That's what people miss when they talk about him too, he's been playing professionally since he was like 14 years old and his shooting was never addressed.

 

[who_better_than_me]

Rubio is the worst shooting PG in the modern era, he's hesitant to shoot because he's awful at it, no amount of confidence is going to fix that. He needs to be locked in a gym everyday over the summer taking 2000 jumpers a day, that is the only way to fix his problem.

He's underwhelming when you start naming PGs and you come to a point where you're looking at Dennis Schroeder and thinking "Rubio makes $13 mill a year, but Dennis is still on a rookie deal...... "

Jason Kidd was a terrible 3 point shooter early in his career but became a reliable one towards the end and he played in a different NBA during his early days where 3 point shooting from the PG spot wasn't really a necessity, now it is and you cannot have a dude out there shooting 26% from 3.......after he's been a pro for damn near a decade. That's what people miss when they talk about him too, he's been playing professionally since he was like 14 years old and his shooting was never addressed.

Why is his shot so slow. I remember reading aboutncatch and release speed and that shyt was almost as slow as players free throw set shot(hyperbole?). They say a guards release should.be under 1 sec and rubios is closer to 2 seconds than it is one, let alone under one second. Still if it wasnt for that contract i wouldnt mind him on the rockets.

 

[Malta]

Why is his shot so slow. I remember reading aboutncatch and release speed and that shyt was almost as slow as players free throw set shot(hyperbole?). They say a guards release should.be under 1 sec and rubios is closer to 2 seconds than it is one, let alone under one second. Still if it wasnt for that contract i wouldnt mind him on the rockets.

He changed his release since then, it's a little quicker this year but he has zero feel for how to take a jumper. And the biggest problem is that ontop of not being a good shooter he simply cannot finish in the lane, so you got a dude that can't shoot but also can't finish.


There's the rub, you wouldn't mind him on the Rockets but on a much smaller contract, now consider that he makes more than Ty Lawson & Jeff Teague

 

[tremonthustler1]

Because you do have the means, I mean if Rubio is as good as you think he is teams would be lining up to get him + LaVine in a package. You have young talent that you could package with Rubio to bring back another PG

If he's as good as I think he is, I'm not getting rid of him, and I'm not getting rid of him, for guys that will not amount to shyt, which is an inevitability no matter who you deal.

Worst case scenario he's already better than Rubio. Fam, you're talking about Rubio like he's the sole reason you win games

How'd they do without him? We can't function without the guy.

So he's injury prone ontop of not being able to shoot? Adelman didn't want him on the floor because he cannot shoot period, look around the league and you'll see that PGs that can't shoot get benched in close games. So you think Rubio's value will only get you back a "guaranteed bum" in return?

He's not injury prone. Had he not gotten hurt (in either instance, the outcomes are much different). If he's so mediocre, how did HIS injury become the catalyst to the team saying "fukk it" and blowing it all up this season?"

So to remedy Rubio out of 4th quarters he put WORSE shooters on the court?

If we're just getting picks, we're getting a bum. For the 100th time, you trust Flip, that's on you. Flip hasn't knowingly made a good draft pick since he's come back.

Rookies tend to do that, isn't it kind of a bad look for the Wolves if their best player is a PG that can't shoot, in fact he's so bad at shooting that the young rookie they have on their team now that you say isn't a basketball player is already a better shooter? Seriously, both Wiggins and LaVine are better jump shooters than him ALREADY, that shyt is mindblowing to me.

Great ones don't. Kobe wasn't shy. T-Mac wasn't shy. Wesbrook wasn't shy. Durant wasn't shy. Bron wasn't shy. Isn't that who he'd have to be for this team to get to a level you deem satisfactory?

Actually Zach is pretty bad at it too. He wasn't shooting above 40% from the field or above 30 from 3 til the last few games.

How many rookies have positively impacted games in the last 10 years? I mean you're asking for something that pretty much doesn't happen. If Rubio is the future of that team you're in for a world of trouble, there isn't a PG in the league like him leading their team to wins, at least you can draw parallels to players like Wiggins being built around, Rubio though? not a single one.

Ricky had us in a playoff hunt his first year on a lockout season. I wasn't asking Wiggins to do that, but as it stands now, take Ricky off that team and Wiggins might not get 60 wins during the duration of his rookie deal.

And I don't mean to make this an indictment on Wiggins in any way, but this season doesn't present much in the way of concrete hope that he'll be the player you think he'll be. It's still all potential and wishful thinking at the moment that I hope you're right on (potential and wishful thinking I really wish I didn't have to put up with anymore. 10+ years of this shyt, I'll just assume they all suck until they stop sucking. That's as fair as I can be with these kids. Harsh maybe but you can't relate to the bullshyt I've had to put with regarding this team)

You're not opposed to changing as long as it's not Rubio, that's what I don't get, I think you'd even trade Wiggins before him. Like I said, there are a gang of PGs better than him, you cannot tell me this dude is anything close to a franchise player.

There's 3 players I wouldn't deal period. Rubio, Wiggins, Bazz. That's it. Why? They're not gonna get another one. I highly doubt we'll ever get a player that can impact the W-L column. Until Wiggins does that I won't assume he will. I can hope. I can even expect, but I'm done assuming with these guys.

 

[Grifter]

 

[G.O.A.T Squad Spokesman]

Young Steph and Muggsy.

 

[Forlife44]

ad rolled is ankle in shootaround this dude just cant get right

 

[The War Report]

They need to put the word "fragile" some where on AD's jersey.

 

[Kang Deezy]

Nobody wants to admit rondo been beasting?

 

[NoMorePie]

Nobody wants to admit rondo been beasting?

Nope.

 

[DoubleJ13]

well damn