Ransom perfectly describing y that lyrical miracle shyt is wack

HARLEM AL

Your broad loves me.....
Joined
May 19, 2012
Messages
23,822
Reputation
4,500
Daps
95,715
Reppin
Harlem, NYC
I never understood this though, so because someone has bigger records you're not allowed to critique their art? I don't understand what Lupe having bigger records has to do with if they can talk about him or not.
You see what they doing right big homie? Now it’s about big records?

So Curtis Jackson should have more say so than Lupe, right?:laff:
 

Billy Ocean

Divine Universal Black Man Representin'
Supporter
Joined
May 9, 2012
Messages
42,777
Reputation
9,270
Daps
207,942
Reppin
TPC
Lupe can make a hit record whenever he feels like it and his songs actually have direction. Whether they can be cryptic in deeper meaning or not. Royce is more lyrical miracle than Lupe and Ran got Royce on his album. Like I said alotta Street lyricists say that about nikkas they feel are lyrically better than them as an insecurity. He don’t feel Royce is lyrically better than him. But I bet u he’s insecure about Lupe. Lupe can be lyrical miracle. But that’s not the way I would describe him overall. He’s overly cryptic on average. On average Royce is lyrical miracle. Rapping about rapping type shyt.

Why assume Ran is insecure about Lupe? I don't get it. Maybe...just maybe...he's not a big fan of Lupe brand of rap and he believes what he does is better.
 

spliz

SplizThaDon
Joined
May 2, 2012
Messages
65,995
Reputation
10,459
Daps
220,733
Reppin
NY all day..Da Stead & BK..
Royce and Lupe are both lyrical miracle nikkas to me. You can have direction and have hits and still be "lyrical miracle". Lyrical miracle to me is being overly complex and technical for the sake of showing off skills and not for the betterment of the song or making it relatable but solely to show off your prowess as a MC. They both do that all the time.
What Lupe does is like an extreme version of what Nas used to do with atleast one or 2 tracks each album. What Royce does is more on a rapping to rap stage, I mean I guess I get what ur saying but even a nikka like Ransom can be that. Most dope lyricists fall into that here n there. Ionno I just feel like it’s too lazy of a take to describe Lupe as that when u don’t give the cats u actively work with that same description.
 

FreshAIG

Moderator
Staff member
Poster of the Year
Supporter
Joined
May 1, 2012
Messages
71,358
Reputation
16,670
Daps
314,701
Reppin
Californ-i-a by way of BK
You see what they doing right big homie? Now it’s about big records?

So Curtis Jackson should have more say so than Lupe, right?:laff:
Right! Like I don't understand why Lupe having bigger records has to do with them "talking about him". And Ransom didn't even diss him, he said "He's nice as shyt" lol.
 

L&HH

Veteran
Joined
May 18, 2012
Messages
53,753
Reputation
5,910
Daps
162,934
Reppin
PG x MD
:usure:

:jbhmm:didn't Lupe said Aesop Rock was the best lyricist a year ago or so and that nobody is fukkin with him

Ah Yes! Lupe is apart of that Crowd also, that's who Lupe props up and compare himself with
:skip: touché
 

HARLEM AL

Your broad loves me.....
Joined
May 19, 2012
Messages
23,822
Reputation
4,500
Daps
95,715
Reppin
Harlem, NYC
Lupe can make a hit record whenever he feels like it and his songs actually have direction. Whether they can be cryptic in deeper meaning or not. Royce is more lyrical miracle than Lupe and Ran got Royce on his album. Like I said alotta Street lyricists say that about nikkas they feel are lyrically better than them as an insecurity. He don’t feel Royce is lyrically better than him. But I bet u he’s insecure about Lupe. Lupe can be lyrical miracle. But that’s not the way I would describe him overall. He’s overly cryptic on average. On average Royce is lyrical miracle. Rapping about rapping type shyt.
nah Spliz, I absolutely don’t agree with this. Royce and Lupe are the same nikkas. Just one is wayyyyy better.
 

spliz

SplizThaDon
Joined
May 2, 2012
Messages
65,995
Reputation
10,459
Daps
220,733
Reppin
NY all day..Da Stead & BK..
Why assume Ran is insecure about Lupe? I don't get it. Maybe...just maybe...he's not a big fan of Lupe brand of rap and he believes what he does is better.
Off the strength that he works with someone more lyrical miracle that Lupe but doesn’t offer the same criticisms. But hey. Maybe u right. Maybe I’m wrong. I just don’t really feel Lupe really fits that mold all that well. I feel he’s overly cryptic and him being pretentious as fukk in real life can carry over into his music. But for the most part what he does has a direction he’s aiming for. Altho he is guilty of the lyrical miracle shyt sometimes I don’t feel that accurately describes his whole career.
 

spliz

SplizThaDon
Joined
May 2, 2012
Messages
65,995
Reputation
10,459
Daps
220,733
Reppin
NY all day..Da Stead & BK..
nah Spliz, I absolutely don’t agree with this. Royce and Lupe are the same nikkas. Just one is wayyyyy better.
Royce can’t get out of his shyt enough to even make a catchy song. Lupe can do that. Lol. But maybe that’s old Lupe and not new Lupe. I know T&Y he def showed he can still be musical with it tho.
 

FreshAIG

Moderator
Staff member
Poster of the Year
Supporter
Joined
May 1, 2012
Messages
71,358
Reputation
16,670
Daps
314,701
Reppin
Californ-i-a by way of BK
What Lupe does is like an extreme version of what Nas used to do with atleast one or 2 tracks each album. What Royce does is more on a rapping to rap stage, I mean I guess I bet what ur saying but even a nikka like Ransom can be that. Most dope lyricists fall into that here n there. Ionno I just feel like it’s too lazy of a take to describe Lupe as that when u don’t give the cats u actively work with that same description.

A lot of rappers do it for sure. But Lupe 100% falls under it to me because he's extremely cryptic, overly layered and complex to the point where nikkas having full dissertations trying to break down what a couple of lines mean lol. That's super pretentious of him. lol. It's literally just an ego stroke. He doesn't do it to make the song better or to relay a message because if he was, he wouldn't make it so hidden and wordy.

My favorite battle rapper is Lux, he be doing that shyt too lol. But at least he's in a field where that's what it calls for.
 

HARLEM AL

Your broad loves me.....
Joined
May 19, 2012
Messages
23,822
Reputation
4,500
Daps
95,715
Reppin
Harlem, NYC
Right! Like I don't understand why Lupe having bigger records has to do with them "talking about him". And Ransom didn't even diss him, he said "He's nice as shyt" lol.
nikkas are weirdos. That’s why I purposely troll backpack rapper fans. Even they think they are better people:mjlol:
 

spliz

SplizThaDon
Joined
May 2, 2012
Messages
65,995
Reputation
10,459
Daps
220,733
Reppin
NY all day..Da Stead & BK..
A lot of rappers do it for sure. But Lupe 100% falls under it to me because he's extremely cryptic, overly layered and complex to the point where nikkas having full dissertations trying to break down what a couple of lines mean lol. That's super pretentious of him. lol. It's literally just an ego stroke. He doesn't do it to make the song better or to relay a message because if he was, he wouldn't make it so hidden and wordy.

My favorite battle rapper is Lux, he be doing that shyt too lol. But at least he's in a field where that's what it calls for.
:ehh: I def feel u. I actually agree. :salute:
 

spliz

SplizThaDon
Joined
May 2, 2012
Messages
65,995
Reputation
10,459
Daps
220,733
Reppin
NY all day..Da Stead & BK..
nikkas are weirdos. That’s why I purposely troll backpack rapper fans. Even they think they are better people:mjlol:
I don’t fukk with backpack rap like Aesop Rock or none of that shyt them nikkas is trash to me. Lol. I guess I feel where y’all coming from cause Lupe is trying to delve more in that realm these days than he used to.
 
Top