Ransom perfectly describing y that lyrical miracle shyt is wack

[HARLEM AL]

Royce can’t get out of his shyt enough to even make a catchy song. Lupe can do that. Lol. But maybe that’s old Lupe and not new Lupe. I know T&Y he def showed he can still be musical with it tho.

Old Lupe(which is the one I like), not kung fu Grip Lupe

 

[JoelB]

That was a funny clip lol. I can see how rappers like Ran might feel like Lupe would look down on em. Lupe is different and he better than all ya'll sitting in that barbershop, so you should feel a way.

Problem is Lupe is lyrical miracle but he's shown he can also make good songs too.

What eminem did on Nas album is Lyical Miracle and its corny. It ruins songs.

 

[Piff Perkins]

"Lyrical miracle" describes dudes that try too hard to impress you lyrically and the music suffers. You can not like Lupe but I don't think he fits that description.

Why not. He’s on record saying he doesn’t know how to actually write a song (structure, bridge, chorus, etc) and he doesn’t care about production. Stuff like Mural is the definition of lyrical miracle. It has no artistic meaning, no thematic worth or narrative. Instead it’s essentially a bunch of double entendres and similes connected together like a puzzle, for the sole intention of you (the listener) googling until you “understand” it. It’s the highest height of corny lyrical miracle shyt. Play that for Biggie and he’d slap you. Play it for a chick and she’d never have sex with you.

Being lyrical is about more than making clever references to pop culture. And it’s certainly not about rapping from the perspective of a hamburger. The standard for what makes rap lyrical should be similar to the standards used to judge good writing or prose in general. Emotional depth, poetic flare, vocabulary, clever wordplay…the ability to translate complex thought into simple, clear language.

I want to feel something when I listen to rap. I want to learn about the author/rapper. With Lupe I instead hear the bitterness of a nerd constantly trying to belittle the “hood” dudes who clowned him his whole life.

 

[Billy Ocean]

didn't Lupe said Aesop Rock was the best lyricist a year ago or so and that nobody is fukkin with him

Ah Yes! Lupe is apart of that Crowd also, that's who Lupe props up and compare himself with

@hex hit the nail on the head years ago. Lupe is one of those lyrical miracle rap nikkas that used to get laughed at in the late 90s/early 2000s. Same shyt.

 

[Billy Ocean]

Nas may be diplomatic nowadays but he's on record mocking those lyrical miracle "backpack" type of rappers like Lupe and said he don't fukk with it. I think it was on that Nore trailer for that documentary that never dropped.

 

[FukkaPaidEmail]

I’m not a Lupe Stan or really that big of a fan ..

but miracles don’t have a The Show Goes on ,Superstar,Kick Push or Daydreaming because they don’t have the ability to create that without sounding out of place .


Give Ransom,Benny,Conway, Gibbs that shyt and they fumble it ….so how is Lupe lyrical miracle but these other nikkas not ? Because they talk street shyt ?


Lupe 3x the artists those nikkas are

Y’all nikkas being serious right now ?

 

[HARLEM AL]

Lupe isn’t lyrical miracle.
Those are the dudes that can’t do anything but rhyme words but can’t create a song . Lupe has hits .

I fw Ransom but he’s more lyrical miracle than Lupe is . I wouldn’t exactly put him in that category either though .


nikkas equate being lyrical miracle with rappers using words and creating concepts they don’t understand . That’s the only reason you’ll say Lupe is lyrical miracle but guys like Griselda ,Ransom and Gibbs aren’t (none of these nikkas are IMO)

No fukking way bruh, no fukking way

 

[FukkaPaidEmail]

No fukking way bruh, no fukking way

No fukkin way ?

Ransom don’t have the ability to crossover because that nikka doesn’t have the ability to make songs the masses fukk with .if he ain’t have bars son would be a janitor. nikka can rhyme his ass off and is still an afterthought …he’s the definition of a lyrical miracle nikka .

He just rhyme about street shyt so nikkas put him to the side

 

[spliz]

Why not. He’s on record saying he doesn’t know how to actually write a song (structure, bridge, chorus, etc) and he doesn’t care about production. Stuff like Mural is the definition of lyrical miracle. It has no artistic meaning, no thematic worth or narrative. Instead it’s essentially a bunch of double entendres and similes connected together like a puzzle, for the sole intention of you (the listener) googling until you “understand” it. It’s the highest height of corny lyrical miracle shyt. Play that for Biggie and he’d slap you. Play it for a chick and she’d never have sex with you.

Being lyrical is about more than making clever references to pop culture. And it’s certainly not about rapping from the perspective of a hamburger. The standard for what makes rap lyrical should be similar to the standards used to judge good writing or prose in general. Emotional depth, poetic flare, vocabulary, clever wordplay…the ability to translate complex thought into simple, clear language.

I want to feel something when I listen to rap. I want to learn about the author/rapper. With Lupe I instead hear the bitterness of a nerd constantly trying to belittle the “hood” dudes who clowned him his whole life.

Thing with Lupe is he doesn’t HAVE to be and on that same album as Mural is on he showed that. What he chooses to do these days is something different entirely but Lupe saying he can’t make a song or any of that is just another layer of him being pretentious as fukk. He says shyt to say it depending on what moment it is. Lupe literally had issues with Atlantic because he was fighting for the freedom to make his own hits because he out his own mouth “proved he can make hits without help of the label already”. Lupe is absolutely a pretentious nerd tho.

 

[HARLEM AL]

No fukkin way ?

Ransom don’t have the ability to crossover because that nikka doesn’t have the ability to make songs the masses fukk with .if he ain’t have bars son would be a janitor. nikka can rhyme his ass off and is still an afterthought …he’s the definition of a lyrical miracle nikka .

He just rhyme about street shyt so nikkas put him to the side

He absolutely don’t just rhyme about street shyt. Lupe hasn’t made a good song in years. Let alone a crossover one…

But if you like rhymes from a cheeseburger prospective, have at it. No beef with you……. That’s a bar…

 

[FukkaPaidEmail]

He absolutely don’t just rhyme about street shyt. Lupe hasn’t made a good song in years. Let alone a crossover one…

But if you like rhymes from a cheeseburger prospective, have at it. No beef with you……. That’s a bar…

But he made crossover hits though…I can’t call a nikka like that a lyrical miracle. That’s strictly reserved for nikkas who are incapable of it
We can agree to disagree though

 

[Morose Polymath]

Why do nikkas get so emotional over Lupe?

 

[spliz]

But he made crossover hits though…I can’t call a nikka like that a lyrical miracle. That’s strictly reserved for nikkas who are incapable of it
We can agree to disagree though

Lupe is both at the same time. Like. He has the ability to tone it down and make a crossover hit. But he CHOOSES to be lyrical miracle. I think that’s what cats saying in this thread.

 

[revan]

Why not. He’s on record saying he doesn’t know how to actually write a song (structure, bridge, chorus, etc) and he doesn’t care about production. Stuff like Mural is the definition of lyrical miracle. It has no artistic meaning, no thematic worth or narrative. Instead it’s essentially a bunch of double entendres and similes connected together like a puzzle, for the sole intention of you (the listener) googling until you “understand” it. It’s the highest height of corny lyrical miracle shyt. Play that for Biggie and he’d slap you. Play it for a chick and she’d never have sex with you.

Being lyrical is about more than making clever references to pop culture. And it’s certainly not about rapping from the perspective of a hamburger. The standard for what makes rap lyrical should be similar to the standards used to judge good writing or prose in general. Emotional depth, poetic flare, vocabulary, clever wordplay…the ability to translate complex thought into simple, clear language.

Strong second paragraph. I'm not an English major, but literature has evolved over generations- this sort of writing can be standardized because we can conclude that writing is at least good if the reader is given the tools to understand what the writer intends. Rap is so abstract for lack of a better word that most listeners probably don't understand exactly what is being said to them in the music- websites like Genius struck a nerve because listeners started to collaborate and understand the music better by breaking lines down and talking in plain English.

Now, in Lupe's case I could see how a song like "mural" could be too convoluted to be entertaining, but that's just one song on an album that stands out in that regard. I don't think it's fair to put him in a box based on those sorts of songs, considering how long he's been doing this and the various types of songs he's made. BIG was a better rapper, not entirely sure why we're comparing him to Lupe I'm terms of writing as he's superior to essentially everyone. Honestly,my girl would probably whip my shyt out just to encourage me to turn that song off.

 

[Wallychamp]

Say it again....but louder...for the nikkas in the back.

Lupe trash.

STFU Lupe far from trash