“Rap doesn’t influence anyone to commit crimes”

Do you believe rap influences the youth to commit crimes?

  • Yes

    Votes: 143 74.9%
  • No

    Votes: 48 25.1%

  • Total voters
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CrimsonTider

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Folks still referencing 70s/80s arrest rates when we were knee deep into the drug era and police quota era. Add in lead poisoning era. shyt was fukked.

Saying the most popular genre in music is influential shouldn't get this much pushback. I see a lot of people internalizing the criticism, saying it didn't make them do bad. It's not about you. It's about normalizing degeneracy to a wide range of people. IG, Twitter, and Tiktok are just as bad.
You tried it
 

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Some of yall keep going straight to murder but ignore:

Wayne, Dipset literally made being a blood commercially cool. U got nikkas like Chris Brown and Bow Wow claimin piru :dead:

Also Wayne, Future and others made poppin pills and sipping lean commercially cool.

Can't forget Cam and Dipset, but mainly Cam, making it cool for dudes to wear pink shirts.
 

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Folks still referencing 70s/80s arrest rates when we were knee deep into the drug era and police quota era. Add in lead poisoning era. shyt was fukked.

Saying the most popular genre in music is influential shouldn't get this much pushback. I see a lot of people internalizing the criticism, saying it didn't make them do bad. It's not about you. It's about normalizing degeneracy to a wide range of people. IG, Twitter, and Tiktok are just as bad.

Again, y’all keep doing this shyt where y’all flat out lie to frame an argument. Nobody is saying that. People are arguing how much influence it has in relation to black crime. People like myself say rap is nowhere near a leading factor, not a root cause, and what is the obsession with singling out and focusing solely on rap music with this board? Other people are acting as if rap music is all that’s wrong with the community. No is pushing back at someone saying rap can be a negative influence, the push back is in y’all having tunnel vision and being obsessed with rap
 

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I personally don't even think actual "crime" is near the top of rap musics overall affects on the black community.

I think the biggest affect is how it has straight up DESTROYED our image as a collective and that alone has had a detrimental affect on a large number of other things.

Remember: if you destroy a groups image/reputation first, then everything else to marginalize those people becomes easier to do because society has become programmed to view those people as "undesirables" "useless", "bottom feeders of society" "dangerous" "threats" etc.

The world has become programmed to view blacks as dangerous menaces to society.

Rap music is being used to JUSTIFY our overwhelming presence in the prison system. Being used to JUSTIFY police brutality and things like redlining.

Wherever black people go, it's ASSUMED that crime, destruction and dysfunction will follow.

If the government tried to put black people back into slavery tomorrow, the world would feel as if it would be justified.

The world would feel as if society would be better off without the presence of blacks.

That time is coming y'all.

They are conditioning the masses to not feel any sympathy towards blacks when the extermination comes.
 

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I personally don't even think actual "crime" is near the top of rap musics overall affects on the black community.

I think the biggest affect is how it has straight up DESTROYED our image as a collective and that alone has had a detrimental affect on a large number of other things.

Remember: if you destroy a groups image/reputation first, then everything else to marginalize those people becomes easier to do because society has become programmed to view those people as "undesirables" "useless", "bottom feeders of society" "dangerous" "threats" etc.

The world has become programmed to view blacks as dangerous menaces to society.

Rap music is being used to JUSTIFY our overwhelming presence in the prison system. Being used to JUSTIFY police brutality and things like redlining.

Wherever black people go, it's ASSUMED that crime, destruction and dysfunction will follow.

If the government tried to put black people back into slavery tomorrow, the world would feel as if it would be justified.

The world would feel as if society would be better off without the presence of blacks.


That time is coming y'all.

They are conditioning the masses to not feel any sympathy towards blacks when the extermination comes.

shyt like this why I truly don’t respect nothing y’all be saying. We not the same. I don’t know what type of thoughts be floating around in y’all nikkas heads. We will never in life see eye to eye. Y’all can have this shyt from now on. I’ll stick to my lighthearted threads
 

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I personally don't even think actual "crime" is near the top of rap musics overall affects on the black community.

I think the biggest affect is how it has straight up DESTROYED our image as a collective and that alone has had a detrimental affect on a large number of other things.

Remember: if you destroy a groups image/reputation first, then everything else to marginalize those people becomes easier to do because society has become programmed to view those people as "undesirables" "useless", "bottom feeders of society" "dangerous" "threats" etc.

The world has become programmed to view blacks as dangerous menaces to society.

Rap music is being used to JUSTIFY our overwhelming presence in the prison system. Being used to JUSTIFY police brutality and things like redlining.

Wherever black people go, it's ASSUMED that crime, destruction and dysfunction will follow.

If the government tried to put black people back into slavery tomorrow, the world would feel as if it would be justified.

The world would feel as if society would be better off without the presence of blacks.

That time is coming y'all.

They are conditioning the masses to not feel any sympathy towards blacks when the extermination comes.
Yeah because black people definitely had a good reputation before the advent of rap music.

The rap bad crowd is getting more retarded by the thread, no evidences just anecdotes and vibes.
 

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You frame that response as if Wayne and Future are the cause of promethzime being popular. Do you think people would not be sipping lean if not for Wayne and Future?

Let me tell you about the first time I had lean. My partna momma from Houston came up and brought him a big ass jug of lean. He told us that it was some Texas shyt and he poured up and we all was sipping that shyt for a few days. He also told me they did some shyt called handle bars which later I found out was the same thing as zanex. I remember asking him what do they do and he said in Houston we call them mind erasers. I said nikka hell naw, why the fukk would y’all do some shyt like that.

Point is, nikkas was gon be popping pills and sipping lean without rap. And y’all continually and repeatedly place a disproportionate amount of blame on black issues on rap music. And y’all need to cut it out
I agree that ppl would be sipping lean without rap, my argument is more about who would be sipping it before rap. Lean is something most ppl outside of Texas never heard of and if they did, they thought it was some Bama shyt.

Wayne wasn't the first to rap about it but he was the biggest and most popular artist to. He influenced people across the planet to try it out. I'd go further to say if Wayne didn't make it popular, lean would still be some shyt that only ppl in the south were into.
 

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Yeah because black people definitely had a good reputation before the advent of rap music.

The rap bad crowd is getting more retarded by the thread, no evidences just anecdotes and vibes.
I love when y'all bring up "before rap music existed", because it tells me that y'all have little to no understanding of past history.

Before rap music existed they used other forms of media propaganda to demonize the image of blacks.

Minstrel Shows, racist cartoons & magazines, movies like "The Birth Of A Nation, etc.

Rap music is a modern day Minstrel Show.

If you had any knowledge of past history there's no way that you would disagree with what I'm saying.

Rap music is literally the modern day Minstrel Show.
 

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I personally don't even think actual "crime" is near the top of rap musics overall affects on the black community.

I think the biggest affect is how it has straight up DESTROYED our image as a collective and that alone has had a detrimental affect on a large number of other things.

Remember: if you destroy a groups image/reputation first, then everything else to marginalize those people becomes easier to do because society has become programmed to view those people as "undesirables" "useless", "bottom feeders of society" "dangerous" "threats" etc.

The world has become programmed to view blacks as dangerous menaces to society.

Rap music is being used to JUSTIFY our overwhelming presence in the prison system. Being used to JUSTIFY police brutality and things like redlining.

Wherever black people go, it's ASSUMED that crime, destruction and dysfunction will follow.

If the government tried to put black people back into slavery tomorrow, the world would feel as if it would be justified.

The world would feel as if society would be better off without the presence of blacks.

That time is coming y'all.

They are conditioning the masses to not feel any sympathy towards blacks when the extermination comes.


You're taking it way too far again. :beli:

Police brutality has become far less accepted from the days when rap was born. Redlining has evolved into much more advanced and abstract versions of the old days and you'll still find far more blacks living in places that they couldn't 40, 50 years ago.
 

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I agree that ppl would be sipping lean without rap, my argument is more about who would be sipping it before rap. Lean is something most ppl outside of Texas never heard of and if they did, they thought it was some Bama shyt.

Wayne wasn't the first to rap about it but he was the biggest and most popular artist to. He influenced people across the planet to try it out. I'd go further to say if Wayne didn't make it popular, lean would still be some shyt that only ppl in the south were into.

Matt we don’t see eye to eye on nothing but I respect your opinion. I just never agree. And I would strongly disagree with claim that lean would only be a southern thing of not for Wayne. It’s never been just a southern thing first off, as it’s always been popular in Philly as well. Drugs sell themselves. They don’t need rappers to help market them. As big as the Cali/Texas connection is lean would have been or may have already been popular on the west coast as well.

With that said, no doubt Wayne and many others influenced people to do or try things. But the average person sipping lean is not doing so because of a rap song. They was already inclined to try drugs. nikkas was doing dope listening to jazz
 

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shyt like this why I truly don’t respect nothing y’all be saying. We not the same. I don’t know what type of thoughts be floating around in y’all nikkas heads. We will never in life see eye to eye. Y’all can have this shyt from now on. I’ll stick to my lighthearted threads
History always repeats itself.

The same thing happened to the Jews.

Hitler launched a MEDIA PROPAGANDA CAMPAIGN years in advance before the Holocaust happened.

He conditioned the minds of the masses first to accept the slaughtering of the Jews.

They don't push negative imagery of black people all over the world for nothing.

It's for a reason: to conditioned the minds of the masses into thinking blacks are inherently evil/ violent.

It baffles me that black people can't see this.
 

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You're taking it way too far again. :beli:

Police brutality has become far less accepted from the days when rap was born. Redlining has evolved into much more advanced and abstract versions of the old days and you'll still find far more blacks living in places that they couldn't 40, 50 years ago.
And y'all aren't taking it seriously PERIOD.

Matter fact most of y'all (not saying you specifically) outright deny the affects that it's having on us.

the black people who are calling their propaganda tools "just entertainment" are a far bigger problem than someone like me with eyes to see.
 

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Gang members said on multiple interviews that old gangster Al Capone movies with the Tommy Gun influenced them.

It didn't make you commit a crime. Like they had a 54th street massacre. Which was inspired by the Valentines Day massacre.

That's why the gun is called a chopper. It can enhance or influence it.


There's way less killing with Rap being around now than before. People were killing listening to Parliament and Funk back in the Gap. My big home boy said they were dumping on dude's listening to Roger and Zapp.
 
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