“Rap doesn’t influence anyone to commit crimes”

Do you believe rap influences the youth to commit crimes?

  • Yes

    Votes: 143 74.9%
  • No

    Votes: 48 25.1%

  • Total voters
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GPBear

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2X burger you're my guy....I like you as a poster...and you seem like you may have a history. IDK how old you are but when I was a teen Jeezy / Dipset motivated a lot of my peers to trap. It sounds stupid and it is; but its a fact. I'm pro-hip-hop and listen to plenty of ignorant shyt..but you don't feel like music has influenced you? Throw on some sugar free and tell me you won't get on your HOH GMB steeze
Sidenote: I think social media is extremely problematic with this. Kids can now watch and participate in adult affairs. A 12 year old can follow you on IG and watch you promoting all sorts of BS. They see their favorite MCs making death threats on live in real time...its wild
Ok but were your friends living in a prosperous environment or were they socio-economically deprived.

If you were rolling around in the suburbs with big ass houses and decided to trap anyways, you might have a point. If not, then those individuals were probably feeling the effects of outside forces which impacted their decisions far more than music ever could
 

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Anyone who says music doesn't influence anyone to commit crimes is lying to themselves. There's a reason you see all of this 'brand placement' in these rap videos. They know kids are going to emulate what they see. Just because someone in a two parent home in the middle of suburbia isn't immediately affected, think about the kid from the single parent household where mom is working and he's left alone to watch these videos all day. If visual marketing didn't work, it wouldn't be a multi billion dollar industry.

There's a reason Cardi B doesn't let her daughter listen to her music. If it has no effect on kids, why won't she let her kid listen? These rappers know what's up, and they are more than fine feeding your kids poison for the check, but they will shield their own.
 

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Anyone who says music doesn't influence anyone to commit crimes is lying to themselves. There's a reason you see all of this 'brand placement' in these rap videos. They know kids are going to emulate what they see. Just because someone in a two parent home in the middle of suburbia isn't immediately affected, think about the kid from the single parent household where mom is working and he's left alone to watch these videos all day. If visual marketing didn't work, it wouldn't be a multi billion dollar industry.

There's a reason Cardi B doesn't let her daughter listen to her music. If it has no effect on kids, why won't she let her kid listen? These rappers know what's up, and they are more than fine feeding your kids poison for the check, but they will shield their own.
you said it yourself, the tendency to commit crime is caused far more by socio-economic circumstances. Blaming music is a scapegoat.
 

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Anyone who says music doesn't influence anyone to commit crimes is lying to themselves. There's a reason you see all of this 'brand placement' in these rap videos. They know kids are going to emulate what they see. Just because someone in a two parent home in the middle of suburbia isn't immediately affected, think about the kid from the single parent household where mom is working and he's left alone to watch these videos all day. If visual marketing didn't work, it wouldn't be a multi billion dollar industry.

There's a reason Cardi B doesn't let her daughter listen to her music. If it has no effect on kids, why won't she let her kid listen? These rappers know what's up, and they are more than fine feeding your kids poison for the check, but they will shield their own.


Exactly, this dialogue is hella interesting seeing the different perspectives and arguments made.

You even got nikkas doing "Scam Rap". Im sure that influenced hella nikkas to scam.

You also have the lifestyle that's being sold. These kids want the benz, the hoes, the clout, the respect, etc. And then they see and hear what the rapper is rapping about and want to emulate. "If I do XYZ then I can be like "insert rapper name here".

Literally this is how marketing works, and for people to just gloss over the marketing field, clearly are just doing it because they are stuck on their point or just don't want to understand.

Also, some of us actually agree with each other and are just arguing just to argue or not interpreting the points accurately.
 

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You even got nikkas doing "Scam Rap". Im sure that influenced hella nikkas to scam.

You also have the lifestyle that's being sold. These kids want the benz, the hoes, the clout, the respect, etc. And then they see and hear what the rapper is rapping about and want to emulate. "If I do XYZ then I can be like "insert rapper name here".

Literally this is how marketing works, and for people to just gloss over the marketing field, clearly are just doing it because they are stuck on their point or just don't want to understand.

All crime where it concerns Black people is trending down. This suggests the influence of rap is not as significant as some of you keep purporting it to be in this thread.

It can influence emotions but if someone is going to commit a crime, they were going to do it with or without rap. There are many drivers that contribute to crime in general so I don't know why you and others keep placing the blame on rap for crime in the Black community.

Aside from that, people have a right to free speech so if they want to rap about lean, fantastical gangster tales, etc..., they have that right. A policy maker is not going to spend resources aimlessly attacking rap over dealing with the issues that cause the conditions of what the rapper is talking about: gang activity, drugs, guns, etc...

Deal with the root cause and you alleviate a lot of the symptoms. If you don't like drill music, deal with what caused it to exist in the first place - poverty, lack of education, and lack of structure.

Telling a person that listens to drill music, "hey, don't listen to that because it makes you feel bad, and may make you commit crimes", is not wise nor is it a good prescription to problems greater in number and relevance than the music they are listening to.
 

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All crime where it concerns Black people is trending down. This suggests the influence of rap is not as significant as some of you keep purporting it to be in this thread.

It can influence emotions but if someone is going to commit a crime, they were going to do it with or without rap. There are many drivers that contribute to crime in general so I don't know why you and others keep placing the blame on rap for crime in the Black community.

Aside from that, people have a right to free speech so if they want to rap about lean, fantastical gangster tales, etc..., they have that right. A policy maker is not going to spend resources aimlessly attacking rap over dealing with the issues that cause the conditions of what the rapper is talking about: gang activity, drugs, guns, etc...

Deal with the root cause and you alleviate a lot of the symptoms. If you don't like drill music, deal with what caused it to exist in the first place - poverty, lack of education, and lack of structure.

Telling a person that listens to drill music, "hey, don't listen to that because it makes you feel bad, and may make you commit crimes", is not wise nor is it a good prescription to problems greater in number and relevance than the music they are listening to.

1. Post your source of your claim of black crime trending downward

2. I just googled hella articles/stats saying otherwise. Including homicide is #1 killer of black males

3. I dont trust stats
 

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Nobody is selling drugs because their favorite rapper does it. They do it because they're environment doesn't offer much else.
Sorry but this just isn’t true. Granted it’s not a lot of people but I can personally point to one person I knew growing up that didn’t have that rough environment where he had to sell drugs
 

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Sorry but this just isn’t true. Granted it’s not a lot of people but I can personally point to one person I knew growing up that didn’t have that rough environment where he had to sell drugs
I wouldnt have even bothered responding breh. These cats gotta be trolling. We all know about those dudes who came from decent homes with two hard working parents who still chose to pursue the street life. Even rich kids do the shyt, these nikkas need to stop the bullshyt.
 

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I wouldnt have even bothered responding breh. These cats gotta be trolling. We all know about those dudes who came from decent homes with two hard working parents who still chose to pursue the street life. Even rich kids do the shyt, these nikkas need to stop the bullshyt.

We all know about those dudes who came from fukked up environments who listend to rap who still chose not to partake in street life. Even poor kids do the shyt, these nikkas need to stop the bullshyt.
 

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Instagram and rap music videos didn't influence women to get BBLs :troll:

Most dangerous surgery cosmetic surgery by a mile and women are lining up, going to doctors in south America where things are more lax and doctors are more aggressive in removing fat than they are in the states.

Not to mention, Black women specifically used to laugh at other women getting surgery, "look at what they have to do to get what we have naturally".

:francis:
 
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