“Rap doesn’t influence anyone to commit crimes”

[jilla82]

Now its an exception? LOL I beg to differ in regards to my entourage

Yall gon on and cook and blame rappers instead of shyt parents though.

youre telling me most people in the hood are raised by both parents and taught lessons to not repeat the cycle?

 

[TAYLONDO SAMSWORTHY]

Some of yall keep going straight to murder but ignore:

Wayne, Dipset literally made being a blood commercially cool. U got nikkas like Chris Brown and Bow Wow claimin piru

Also Wayne, Future and others made poppin pills and sipping lean commercially cool.

 

[$cam-U-Well_Jack$on]

Da same folks sayin' music doesn't have an influence on da minds of da people are some of da same ones that will then turn around and swear that various forms of media are trying to turn folks gay due to robust amounts of LGBTQ content and will wholeheartedly believe this to be true.

 

[$cam-U-Well_Jack$on]

Some of yall keep going straight to murder but ignore:

Wayne, Dipset literally made being a blood commercially cool. U got nikkas like nikkas like Chris Brown and Bow Wow claimin piru

Also Wayne, Future and others made poppin pills and sipping lean commercially cool.

Nevermind fashion choices & slang. But it has zero influence. Hell, sum'n as mundane as firearms and accessories (drums, extended magazines, Draco's, etc.)

 

[Double Burger With Cheese]

Da same folks sayin' music doesn't have an influence on da minds of da people are some of da same ones that will then turn around and swear that various forms of media are trying to turn folks gay due to robust amounts of LGBTQ content and will wholeheartedly believe this to be true.

Every time y’all say this I have to interject. Most people on this forum have conceded the point that music has influence. People like me are perplexed as to why hip hop is singled out when it’s nowhere near the leading factor of community issues, and also disagree on the amount of influence music has. But yet and still, y’all often frame y’all arguments with a flat out lie, as if posters are running around here saying music has ZERO influence.

 

[Matt504]

Some of yall keep going straight to murder but ignore:

Wayne, Dipset literally made being a blood commercially cool. U got nikkas like nikkas like Chris Brown and Bow Wow claimin piru

Also Wayne, Future and others made poppin pills and sipping lean commercially cool.

New Orleans, for example NEVER had bloods until Wayne starting banging. Lean was one of those regional drugs until Wayne. Prior to maybe 2007, ppl weren't sipping like that outside of Texas and Tennessee.

Wayne spread that poison worldwide. Actavis literally shut down production because of these damn "entertainers"

 

[Double Burger With Cheese]

New Orleans, for example NEVER had bloods until Wayne starting banging. Lean was one of those regional drugs until Wayne. Prior to maybe 2007, ppl weren't sipping like that outside of Texas and Tennessee.

Wayne spread that poison worldwide. Actavis literally shut down production because of these damn entertainers

Without Lil Wayne existing and being a blood, do you think the crime rate in New Orleans would have went significantly down?

 

[ultraflexed]

My experience is different. Most of the drug dealers I knew as kids were not piss poor. They were not hustling to keep the lights on. They were hustling to stunt. In the early 2000s that street life was glorified

There are people out there who have careers and families and still sell dope.

It only influences the easily impressionable ones and the smart dumb.

/thread

 

[Double Burger With Cheese]

/thread

Yes, let’s close this thread. And let’s take it a step further. Let’s not make any more of these goofy ass threads. We have the answers

 

[MasterThought]

His parents are piece of shyt parents

Not necessarily.

I get what you're saying but to call his parents"pieces of shyt" is a stretch.

His parents may have thought that what he was listening to was "just entertainment", just like a large number of coli posters think it is.

 

[Matt504]

Without Lil Wayne existing and being a blood, do you think the crime rate in New Orleans would have went significantly down?

I don't think his absence would cause crime to significantly drop. I also believe that people becoming bloods because Lil Wayne made it popular in new Orleans increased crime. They weren't joining to start programs that would feed the youth.

If Wayne and Future dropped dead right now, I don't think it would have any impact on the popularity of promethazine in this culture, the damage has already been done.

 

[Double Burger With Cheese]

I don't think his absence would cause crime to significantly drop. I also believe that people becoming bloods because Lil Wayne made it popular in new Orleans increased crime. They weren't joining to start programs that would feed the youth.

If Wayne and Future dropped dead right now, I don't think it would have any impact on the popularity of promethazine in this culture, the damage has already been done.

You frame that response as if Wayne and Future are the cause of promethzime being popular. Do you think people would not be sipping lean if not for Wayne and Future?

Let me tell you about the first time I had lean. My partna momma from Houston came up and brought him a big ass jug of lean. He told us that it was some Texas shyt and he poured up and we all was sipping that shyt for a few days. He also told me they did some shyt called handle bars which later I found out was the same thing as zanex. I remember asking him what do they do and he said in Houston we call them mind erasers. I said nikka hell naw, why the fukk would y’all do some shyt like that.

Point is, nikkas was gon be popping pills and sipping lean without rap. And y’all continually and repeatedly place a disproportionate amount of blame on black issues on rap music. And y’all need to cut it out

 

[IIVI]

At the end of the day, it's not Future's fault people are losing their minds to a few words.

Especially when you read the comments it becomes really clear:

If people are that gullible and obsessed, and you're the music industry then of course you're going to keep pushing that kind of music. It's easy money.

It ain't the artists' faults people obsess over some bars. It's a choice by the listener, period.

Even Pharrell said it: no artist can control if the fans like something or not and decide to throw it on repeat.

 

[Kendom]

Fair statement. Rappers and rap music is a convienent excuse to blame. Still, I don't think rap is the sole source of the problem but it is a major factor. I listen to music outside rap and R&B. I can't think of any genre of music that disrespects their own women and killing their own men like rap. All the while it's white people pushing the narrative and getting paid. People can be on either side of the argument but at the end of the day the joke is squarely on us.

How can it possibly be a major factor if the Black crime rate has been falling since 1980? lets deal with FACTS. Whatever "influence" it has is negligible.

Crime as a whole went down yet young black males still make up a disproportionate amount of homicides.

It starts at home. Poverty isnt an excuse to be violent. Theres far more poor who dont do crime than do. It's not just music either, it's a culture, and no policy is going to fix a broken culture.

How does that address his point its not like black males are the only group who listen to rap. In Fact it's been stated that whites are the primary consumers but it has no impact on the crime rates so if anything you're proving his point. Seems to me like you were just looking for an excuse to post them stats.. talking about black people having a "culture of crime" ....

 

[Nabs]

Folks still referencing 70s/80s arrest rates when we were knee deep into the drug era and police quota era. Add in lead poisoning era. shyt was fukked.

Saying the most popular genre in music is influential shouldn't get this much pushback. I see a lot of people internalizing the criticism, saying it didn't make them do bad. It's not about you. It's about normalizing degeneracy to a wide range of people. IG, Twitter, and Tiktok are just as bad.